You are correct - I didn't notice the EV to EV, I thought you were comparing to the EUV.I don't know what this means. This is a highest-trim 2017EV to highest-trim 2022+EV (not EUV) comparison as OP asked for. That's 2017 EV Premier to 2022+ EV 2LT, there is no Premier trim for the 2022+ EV.
Indeed. Agree with more premium feeling and probably touch screen experience. Personally, I like chrome, and prefer the quirky interior over the muted one. I didn't know the rear camera sprayer was gone, that'll be missed!
Upgrade/comparison from 2017 premier to 2023 EV 2LT?
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I guess i was just assuming the rear camera sprayer is gone since the rear view mirror camera is ditched. I honestly am still on the fence about trading in. Perhaps if I find a gen 1 less than $25k I could do a swap and take the tax credit. We'll see...I don't know what this means
Indeed. Agree with more premium feeling and probably touch screen experience. Personally, I like chrome, and prefer the quirky interior over the muted one. I didn't know the rear camera sprayer was gone, that'll be missed!
I wasn't very clear on that so I updated the title. I am not interested in an EUV.
I agree with you, but sometimes sh!t happens. To your final point, I no longer have my original wife, because she died.I am constantly amazed by people who trade cars every few years. I have event tee shirts over 20 years old. (I am wearing one right now, from a 1999 recumbent bike rally in DC. I have a group picture of us at that event, taken in front of the White House friont gate. I could literally have hit it with a rock. How the world has changed.) I even have my original wife. Maybe if she left me, and took the Bolt, I'd get an Energica Experia MC.
Our 2018 Volt replaced a 12 year old Mazda. The Volt was totaled, or we would still have it instead of the 2021 Bolt that replaced it. Our 2021 Bolt was trade repurchased by GM, or we would still have that instead of the 2023 EUV we got from GM.
And our other car is 11.5 years old, bought new, and we have no plan to replace it.
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Took my 2017 Bolt to an auto upholstery shop and he installed the brand new front seat covers, which were very dirty and one ripped, with new ones I had bought from Chevy and added more padding, and the seats are perfect. I'm only pissed I waited so long to do it.
If you want to stick with the EV, then you will just have to make do with a 2LT.
1) the new interior is much better finished. It doesn’t look like a plastic fantastic piece of 💩 No creaky anything in any of my Bolts.
2) I will sell you the one from my EUV. I never use it. I don’t miss anything. I never used the rear door buttons so I don’t see what the big deal is. The front doors are a couple feet away (?)
3) Looks like it costs more than it does instead of vice-versa. The new front end looks much better. The infotainment is light years better and easier to navigate. No reflection off the dashboard anymore.The HVAC controls are much better and more intuitive. The shifter is twice as easy to shuttle between gears. You liked the D-L shuttle? Now it’s a button that is much faster. Going into N is push a button and then it’s ready for the car wash. I never could figure out the stupid car wash mode BS, and the idiot would start the track before I was ready every time. Now it is actually in neutral by just pushing the N button. The shifter is light years better.
4) the seats in the 2017 were a deal breaker along with my comfort. I would feel broken after 50 miles. I don’t know what you wer sitting in but it wasn’t my seats. I couldn’t get rid of that car soon enough.
With the new power seats, I have yet to feel even slightly uncomfortable. It only took about 25-30 miles in the 2017. The 2020 seats were a big improvement over the 17, but the 22 seats are finally what I needed. I think you should notice a big difference. And they are much more adjustable. No more thigh discomfort from no support at the front of the seat, and I used to be able to feel the bolsters on the 2017. They were the worst seats of any car I have had. Only a truck was worse.
The original Bolt seats seemed to be trying to be sport seats for a skinny person*. The Bolt's chief engineer was a skinny guy who liked sporty driving...
But it is not surprising that some people found them to be too confining width-wise. They could also have put a little more or better padding in the backrest.
*Though they weren't the best sport seats, probably because they were trying to keep the cost down. The Recaros in the Ford Fiesta ST and Focus ST were better sport seats, though the ones in the Fiesta ST were even more snug width-wise.
Extra cost paints in Chevies were pretty good, but Ford had the best paints, whether they were extra-cost or not.
I have a Launch Edition EUV (so technically a Premier with some odd quirks), and just found out last night that despite the presence of the rear view camera mirror, the sprayer is still gone! It’s the only thing I’m missing currently. Everything else @Martin D had mentioned I wholeheartedly agree with.
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I'm upgrading from a 2017 Premier to an EUV Premier tomorrow, and was in the same situation of trying to decide between the 2LT or Premier due to the cost difference. The only real sacrifice would have been the surround view camera and sound system, but I couldn't bring myself to swap back to a simple backup camera after years with surround view. It really does come in handy in so many difference scenarios, namely my tight driveway and when in drive throughs or getting into tight parking spaces. If this is a deal breaker for you, bite the bullet and go with the Premier. You won't regret it. If you think that is superfluous or can be happy with backup only, then go the 2LT route and save yourself some dough. I will say that the few thousand dollars made very little different on the balance sheet after rebates, trade in, and other offers I found. And I truly cannot wait to get my sunroof back. I didn't think I would miss it that much, but the light, openness and ventilation that a sunroof provides is something I value much more than I thought!
I think you're confusing the trim levels of Bolt EV and EUV. Ev is 1LT and 2LT. EUV is LT and Premier. I'm looking/taking about EV, not EUV.
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Nor mine. A very solid car after more than 62,000 miles.
I'm a mid sized guy(170lb) and had no quarrel with my 21 EV's cloth seats other than the light color. I also had a 16 Fiesta ST that I specifically had the dealer find me one without the recaro seats, primarily because it was a $3000 option that I refused to pay just to have heated seats. The base cloth seats were just fine.
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The 2017 trim levels were simply LT and Premier. They removed the Premier trim level of the EV when they introduced the EUV in 22. The Premier trim on my 17 EV is the equivalent of 2LT on 22 and newer EVs. Hope that helps.
UPDATE: So not the best news but my local dealer has tried to get an allocation for a regular EV but can't. They do have an allocation for an EUV that they can get me. If i'm getting an EUV i'd want it fully spec'd (minus supercruise). Not really thrilled about a $4k addition just for a few more features and interior room (less range to boot). However, we may have an infant in a year or two so i'm not sure if having a little more room in our commuter car would be worth the $4k (have full size range rover if we need the room anyway).
My other thought/option is if used Bolt prices keep falling to under $25k we could trade our 2017 for a similar Bolt and take advantage of the used tax credit. Not sure what the best solution is.
My other thought/option is if used Bolt prices keep falling to under $25k we could trade our 2017 for a similar Bolt and take advantage of the used tax credit. Not sure what the best solution is.
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Have you tested an EUV yet? It's a night/day improvement over my 17 Premier EV. Yes, the EV is also improved, but I fell in love with my EUV the day I got behind the wheel. The higher seating height, sunroof, and more backseat room are very nice. Mine is also fully loaded except for Super Cruise. It is the spec I would recommend. My advice: bite the bullet and get your EUV. You won't regret it. Don't forget, full EV tax credit right now! It'll likely be reduced in half by March. That's $3750 to pay for the EUV premium (as long as you have the tax liability to offset the credit).
The tax credit is the main reason I want to upgrade now along with trade values being so high. I am afraid you're opinion is right for me as well, as much as I don't want to spend the extra $. I was under the impression that the tax credit leniency was through March not just until March. Can anyone confirm?
If you like a high seating position I couldn't recommend our 2012 Range Rover, or any Rangie enough. I honestly feel like the king of the road driving it.
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It's tentatively March, but whenever Treasury gets around to it and publishes the rule, really.
UPDATE: I'm fuming... Monday the dealer informed me that the EV allocation didn't go through, but they did have an EUV which I told him in an email that will have to do given the situation and asked how to proceed. He told me to meet on Friday morning to which I responded I would rather come in sooner because I had some weekdays off. He said no that Friday is better... Ooookay! Sit down with the salesman and am informed that someone else has a deposit on the EUV. JACKARSES! They are fully aware of how I feel about this move. Screwed me out of the full tax rebate. He proceeds to ask me what options I want for when they do get an allocation to which I respond I told you last November what I want, does noone communicate around here?! So ridiculous...
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