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The country has a disinformation problem, false narratives, and it involves the media. Biden has to deal with it if he wants to bring the country together. Heck, some people believe we never landed a man on the moon! This is not a joke.

One thing the new administration can do is to restore the Fairness Doctrine Reagan got rid of in the 1980s, which made one-sided Fox News and right wing radio possible. It also needs to be extended to the internet, and the so-called "social media", which is now heavily commercial. The internet needs some regulation, and I don't mean porn.
 

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The country has a disinformation problem, false narratives, and it involves the media. Biden has to deal with it if he wants to bring the country together. Heck, some people believe we never landed a man on the moon! This is not a joke.

One thing the new administration can do is to restore the Fairness Doctrine Reagan got rid of in the 1980s, which made one-sided Fox News and right wing radio possible. It also needs to be extended to the internet, and the so-called "social media", which is now heavily commercial. The internet needs some regulation, and I don't mean porn.
Spot on. I prefer the term "anti-social media", though. :(
 

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The country has a disinformation problem, false narratives, and it involves the media. Biden has to deal with it if he wants to bring the country together. Heck, some people believe we never landed a man on the moon! This is not a joke.

One thing the new administration can do is to restore the Fairness Doctrine Reagan got rid of in the 1980s, which made one-sided Fox News and right wing radio possible. It also needs to be extended to the internet, and the so-called "social media", which is now heavily commercial. The internet needs some regulation, and I don't mean porn.
Look at news sources outside the USA for a view more like news used to be here. Longer stories, less fluff. It's not Edward R. Murrow and Walter Cronkite, but it is more properly critical when warranted. (Not RT.)
 

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One thing the new administration can do is to restore the Fairness Doctrine
Why? Do you want what's "fair" or do you just want a tool to bludgeon those who you disagree with? Sounds like the latter to me.

Imagine this little story:
A powerful alien happens to be passing by Earth and picks up a transmission about the Fairness Doctrine. This alien believes in fairness so he wants to do one small thing for this planet he/she/it came across. His computer does a quick analysis and sees that there is no way to do this in the current political climate. But the powerful alien has a solution. He goes back in time to 1949 when the Fairness Doctrine was created and clones the existing administrators of it and brings them to the future and installs them as the arbiters of the Fairness Doctrine. What could be more fair than going back to the original intent in this way, right? Imagine what wasn't allowed in 1949. Would you be okay with this? I wouldn't.

No human construct should be given the right to determine what is "fair".

Also, I'd like to recommend a book that describes the utopia you desire. It's called "1984".
 

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Why? Do you want what's "fair" or do you just want a tool to bludgeon those who you disagree with? Sounds like the latter to me.

Imagine this little story:
A powerful alien happens to be passing by Earth and picks up a transmission about the Fairness Doctrine. This alien believes in fairness so he wants to do one small thing for this planet he/she/it came across. His computer does a quick analysis and sees that there is no way to do this in the current political climate. But the powerful alien has a solution. He goes back in time to 1949 when the Fairness Doctrine was created and clones the existing administrators of it and brings them to the future and installs them as the arbiters of the Fairness Doctrine. What could be more fair than going back to the original intent in this way, right? Imagine what wasn't allowed in 1949. Would you be okay with this? I wouldn't.

No human construct should be given the right to determine what is "fair".

Also, I'd like to recommend a book that describes the utopia you desire. It's called "1984".
What? It's nothing like that.
 

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Nothing like government control over what the public is allowed to think?
If you haven't noticed, it's advertising that actually tells the public what to think and like. Far more powerful than governments, even Russia and China accept that.

Fox News is little more than advertising for a certain view.
 

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If you haven't noticed, it's advertising that actually tells the public what to think and like. Far more powerful than governments, even Russia and China accept that.
Actually, I haven't noticed. I don't watch regular TV and mostly ignore web ads so I don't really think about advertising much anymore. But it still seems that while advertising is telling people what to like, news and media are telling people what to think. I guess I'll have to take your word for it because I have zero desire to delve into current advertising to see what's happening there.

P.S. In the MBA program I was fascinated by marketing studies, focus groups, data mining and that sort of stuff from the marketing class. I considered pursuing a career in that direction. Unfortunately, I found that to get into marketing you pretty much had to start in sales and advertising. Ugh! 😱
 

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Actually, I haven't noticed. I don't watch regular TV and mostly ignore web ads so I don't really think about advertising much anymore. But it still seems that while advertising is telling people what to like, news and media are telling people what to think. I guess I'll have to take your word for it because I have zero desire to delve into current advertising to see what's happening there.

P.S. In the MBA program I was fascinated by marketing studies, focus groups, data mining and that sort of stuff from the marketing class. I considered pursuing a career in that direction. Unfortunately, I found that to get into marketing you pretty much had to start in sales and advertising. Ugh! 😱
I started in advertising before getting into animation. I'm pretty good at both, and I'm not happy with the fact that I helped make people believe lies about products.
 

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I started in advertising before getting into animation. I'm pretty good at both, and I'm not happy with the fact that I helped make people believe lies about products.
Early in the marketing class the teacher asked the class to answer "what are aspects marketing" and she wrote the answers on the board. The answer were like "branding", "advertising", etc. After a while the class ran out of new things to add, and being the smart-ass I am, I raised my hand and said "lies". OMG, that did not go over well. The teacher was actually a bit offended. :rolleyes:
 

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We need to quit making excuses for these insurrectionists. They attacked the United States Capital looking for members of Congress to kill, kidnap and try and overturn the Peoples Election. PERIOD

This isn't Antifa, or BLM matters or any other group ..it is Qaon and, Proud Boys and other mostly white supremacist groups.


As Far a Facebook, Twitter they are PRIVATE COMPANIES ..PERIOD. They are not preventing free speech because you don't have Free Speech at Private Companies..PERIOD



The first amendment simply prevents the GOVERNMENT from trying to prevent our speech rights...PERIOD



QUIT DEFLECTING and Man up ... The People that attacked out Foundation of Government and assisted in the Coup ...yes it was a coup, an attempt to overturn our elections need to be swiftly tried and sent to prison ..PERIOD .

As a Nation of all Peoples, we need to come together and put our foot down forcibly on any that try and tear down our Democracy.
 

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Early in the marketing class the teacher asked the class to answer "what are aspects marketing" and she wrote the answers on the board. The answer were like "branding", "advertising", etc. After a while the class ran out of new things to add, and being the smart-ass I am, I raised my hand and said "lies". OMG, that did not go over well. The teacher was actually a bit offended. :rolleyes:
Sounds like the "truth" hit a nerve!
 

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Because CNN is so completely fair and balanced. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

Both are clearly biased. Not recognizing that is what should be criminal. (Hyperbole alert!)
Both axes are important, but I think the vertical axis is more important than the horizontal axis. We need to get away from analysis- and opinion-reporting and focus more on fact-based reporting, but of course that's not going to make as much money.

 

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Both axes are important, but I think the vertical axis is more important than the horizontal axis. We need to get away from analysis- and opinion-reporting and focus more on fact-based reporting, but of course that's not going to make as much money.

Pretty good chart. It is a little simplistic with just a left and right bias, but the screen presentation is two dimensional so this is understandable. Some non-US media represented. I find that BBC, DW, AFP, and similar have a better presentation on critical US issues as they are not in the middle of the "whirlwind".

Another interesting drill is to look at how many adjectives and adverbs are used at each media outlet - more adjectives and adverbs - more inflammatory. It would be good if we could get back to focusing on facts in the media, instead of "analysis" or "summaries".
 

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I hear a lot of my right wing friends saying the same thing. How do you get a current perspective each day? When you decide to start forming your opinion of the "news" for the day, what specific three sources do you check out?


Actually, I haven't noticed. I don't watch regular TV and mostly ignore web ads so I don't really think about advertising much anymore. But it still seems that while advertising is telling people what to like, news and media are telling people what to think. I guess I'll have to take your word for it because I have zero desire to delve into current advertising to see what's happening there.

P.S. In the MBA program I was fascinated by marketing studies, focus groups, data mining and that sort of stuff from the marketing class. I considered pursuing a career in that direction. Unfortunately, I found that to get into marketing you pretty much had to start in sales and advertising. Ugh! 😱
 

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How do you get a current perspective each day?
I usually bounce between Fox and CNN to get the extremes. I think the key is to understand where the biases are coming from so you can properly interpret and glean the important parts out. But I also get a news "feed" that give me stuff from VOX, Slate, Washington Post and everything else. Sometimes it's an unknown source but it doesn't take long to figure out which side of bias is being used.

For the record, and I know this will blow some gaskets, but Fox is about 50% biased in one direction and is more "entertainment" oriented. There's about 10% of stories that are completely avoided by the likes of CNN. CNN is 98% biased. In what they cover and how they cover there is practically a guarantee of strong bias. Which is fine. That's their thing. At least I see about 20% of stories that aren't found in places like Fox.

That "bias" chart. :ROFLMAO:
 

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I hear a lot of my right wing friends saying the same thing. How do you get a current perspective each day? When you decide to start forming your opinion of the "news" for the day, what specific three sources do you check out?
Google news, Reuters, DW, BBC and a local newspaper (online) I don't read everything, but look at headlines, before I click. I specifically read articles where the headline doesn't make sense to me.
 

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He is the main person wanted in the killing of OfficerBrian Sicknick ...he was using a fire extenquisher while the others were mostly punching and kicking the officer(they are all complicit)
 
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