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What are you charging at home with?

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So we just got our 2023 EUV last week and just started the process to get the 220 outlet installed. Are people using the supplied 220 charge cord supplied with the car or are you buying a charging station and using that?

Our utility company has 250.00 rebate program and I am wondering if we should take advantage of the offer or just use the supplied charge cord?

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Grizzle-e Avalanche edition just arrived. Got a factory refurb with full warranty. Not a scratch on it! $330 Black Friday special $30 off, $30 shipping! I went with this for the Amp DIP switch flexibility. My house is only 100AMP and my electrician calculated I could safely use a 30A breaker on my garage sub. I am dialing back to 24A (80%) to the car, about 18 MPH, plenty for 90 mile RT commuting.
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Grizzle-e Avalanche edition just arrived. Got a factory refurb with full warranty. Not a scratch on it! $330 Black Friday special $30 off, $30 shipping! I went with this for the Amp DIP switch flexibility. My house is only 100AMP and my electrician calculated I could safely use a 30A breaker on my garage sub. I am dialing back to 24A (80%) to the car, about 18 MPH, plenty for 90 mile RT commuting.
I think 24 amps is a good setting to use. When I warm my car up in the morning after the initial start up it runs all the heating devices in my car without using the car's battery it seems. My evse has a digital display of the amps and it doesn't exceed the 24 amps the 15 to 20 minutes It's warming up the car. It uses 24 amps and probably more for less than a minute then varies between 6 to about 15 amps the whole time. But my car is in a garage.
So we just got our 2023 EUV last week and just started the process to get the 220 outlet installed. Are people using the supplied 220 charge cord supplied with the car or are you buying a charging station and using that?

Our utility company has 250.00 rebate program and I am wondering if we should take advantage of the offer or just use the supplied charge cord?

We used the rebate for installation of a charging station and used the cord supplied with the car - I think our out of pocket was $600 for the installation of the box on the outside of our garage .....but we had power available in our garage electric panel. Until that was done, we charged with the 120 volt charger and that worked because I don't drive more than 60 or so miles a day. Definitely glad we have the 220 now though......
PG&E is so expensive, so that besides a couple free L2 EVSEs ~6 miles from home, I can DC fast charge for cheaper than the cheapest marginal rate on their EV plan (EV2-A) which I'm not on anyway. It's 19 cents per kWh vs. over 24 cents.
I almost did a spit-take reading that. How can they possibly justify that rate? I pay 10 cents for regular off cycle charging, and the EV plan is only 3 cents per KWH ( but requires their $750 charger).

Currently I'm using the included charger. I'm considering the utility EV plan, but the break-even point is so far out.
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I almost did a spit-take reading that. How can they possibly justify that rate? I pay 10 cents for regular off cycle charging, and the EV plan is only 3 cents per KWH ( but requires their $750 charger).

Currently I'm using the included charger. I'm considering the utility EV plan, but the break-even point is so far out.
It's California. I'm in SMUD, which has almost the lowest rates of the larger utilities in CA. Minimum winter rate (overnight with EV discount) is just over 9垄/kwh. Maximum summer rate (5-8PM peak) is over 33垄. Most PG&E customers would kill for rates like that. Obviously, they want us to charge overnight...

Compare, though: EVGo daytime rates are over 50垄/kwh (plus a session fee if you're not on a plan) and just under 60垄 at peak times (basically 4-9PM). Most EA, not on a plan, charge 43-45垄/kwh (no session fee) though some are starting to charge more at peak times. Chargepoint is all over the map, and hard to compare because some stations charge session and/or a per-minute fees as well as per-kwh so be careful when comparing. There are outliers both low and high among the smaller networks. Caltrans DC chargers are free, if they're working and you can live with charging in the middle of a homeless camp. Get and use Plugshare. Still, I would expect cases where DC charging would be less expensive than the most punitive PG&E home plan.
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So we just got our 2023 EUV last week and just started the process to get the 220 outlet installed. Are people using the supplied 220 charge cord supplied with the car or are you buying a charging station and using that?

Our utility company has 250.00 rebate program and I am wondering if we should take advantage of the offer or just use the supplied charge cord?

Congrats on the new BEUV. I've had mine for about a month. I used the supplied Level 1/2 charger cord for a few weeks at home, primarily to suppliment fast charging on the way home. As of yesterday, I now have a 48watt Wallbox charger and will do all my charging at home. The charger, cuttoff switch and home surge protector will cost around $1000, some of which I will get back.
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I'm using the free dual level EVSE. The only thing I hate is the stiff wire insulation. It's diffcult to wind it back up on the hanger.
Ha, my Wallbox charging cable is twice as thick!
It's California. I'm in SMUD, which has almost the lowest rates of the larger utilities in CA.
SMUD and PG&E - that brings back memories. I grew up in Orangevale, and recall my parents complaining about them 30 years ago. lol.
I almost did a spit-take reading that. How can they possibly justify that rate? I pay 10 cents for regular off cycle charging, and the EV plan is only 3 cents per KWH ( but requires their $750 charger).

Currently I'm using the included charger. I'm considering the utility EV plan, but the break-even point is so far out.
It's because it's Pacific Gouge & Extort and the CPUC allowing them.

Current EV plan for those w/o a separate meter for their EVSE only is EV2-A. See page 2 of https://www.pge.com/tariffs/assets/pdf/tariffbook/ELEC_SCHEDS_EV2 (Sch).pdf. It's 24.7 cents per kWh at the cheapest. Rest of day is 41.5 to 56 cents per kWh, depending on when.

Since I don't charge at home, I'm on E-TOU-C, see page 2 of https://www.pge.com/tariffs/assets/pdf/tariffbook/ELEC_SCHEDS_E-TOU-C.pdf. Basically, each kWh within your baseline (roughly 300 kWh per 30 day billing month for my area) gets the 9 cent per kWh credit. Anything beyond baseline doesn't. Since charging an EV at home would for sure push me beyond baseline, marginal cost of each kWh to charge an EV at home at the cheapest times would be 37.4 or 42.5 cents per kWh.
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22 EUV here -- I'm using the OEM 32A dual voltage cord for home charging, roughly 25/mi an hour worth of range. Extra fun bit is I got to re-use my drop down charge tube that I built for my Volt. Love being able to push a button and make it all disappear : )


I keep a Tesla Mobile connector (and J1772 adapter) with the NEMA pack in the underfloor storage. I use it when I travel to parents to visit as they are pretty remote, can just hook it up to dad's 50A welder outlet and be good to go. The EVSE that came with your EUV is more than adequate for 99% of people's needs, UL listed, and rock solid. Unless you are super techy and want a charger that has fancy wifi or bluetooth energy tracking there's really no reason to buy another one.
That is really cool but a bit noisy.
That is really cool but a bit noisy.
Going down it's practically silent -- stowing it in the up position it makes that noise. Luckily, it's in the "down" position 99% of the time, only time I need to stow it is when I move the car out of the garage for a project or to wash the car or clean the garage floor.
hi.
I had a 240 outlet instaled
works fine
suggest installing off & on switch with outlet.
H.
hi.
I had a 240 outlet instaled
works fine
suggest installing off & on switch with outlet.
H.
Why do you want it switched?
My Lectron V-box has an off and on switch. I like that feature.
I am using a Clipper Creek HCS-40. It's a 32 Amp heavy duty model that I was lucky enough to find on the CC website refurbished, at a good discount a couple of years ago when I got my 2020 Bolt. You would probably want to buy the 40 or 50 amp model these days.
I鈥檝e had one of those for 10 years, branded Sun County Highway. It鈥檚 been mounted outside and has been flawless. 32 amps is plenty.
So we just got our 2023 EUV last week and just started the process to get the 220 outlet installed. Are people using the supplied 220 charge cord supplied with the car or are you buying a charging station and using that?

Our utility company has 250.00 rebate program and I am wondering if we should take advantage of the offer or just use the supplied charge cord?

I installed this: AMPROAD home L2 Charger, Now reviewing !
at my house, and keep the Chevy EVSE in the car. Have not had any issues with the amproad unit; it works perfectly !
My Lectron V-box has an off and on switch. I like that feature.
I just can't think of a reason why I would ever turn it off?
I just can't think of a reason why I would ever turn it off?
If I'm going to be away for an extended period (say, a week or more) I'd like to be able to shut off the EVSE on general principles. Not sure how much "vampire" power it uses, but the ready light is always on. A switch for that would be handy. In my case, I'd just pull the plug.
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I just can't think of a reason why I would ever turn it off?
Because they put a on and off switch on it. Lol
When my bolt was in the bump shop for a month I turned it off. I like the switch it's convenient.
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