[Ccoe]

I just purchased a new 2022 EUV. During the purchase I learned of my free OnStar trial which will last until February. I have no interest in paying $32 a month so OnStar will disappear at the end of the trial. My question today is what will I lose when it goes away?

I know I will lose contact with the OnStar operators. I think I will lose onboard wifi? What else goes? Nav? MyChevrolet app? Apple CarPlay? Others?

I keep hearing different stories and would like to get more details. Is there a website that explains all this?

Thanks in advance!

Charlie

 

[MiG]

I also have a 2022 EUV and did not take any OnStar subscriptions once the trial ended -- never gave them my credit card.

Assuming you have no other subscriptions with OnStar, you end up with EV Connect. (another post on this topic here)

You will lose the wifi hot spot that provides internet.
CarPlay and onboard Nav are still there.
You lose remote start with the MyChevrolet app on your phone. (can still do that with the fob but you need to be somewhat near to your car).
You do still get vehicle status on your phone through the app to get charging and state of charge (SOC) information. There are also service notices and tire pressure monitoring in the phone app.

You can do energy/trip planning on your phone and it will show up in the car. In the car during a long trip, I was able to monitor planned charging stops to see if the stations were being used. I used that in tandem with my phone navigation (And/or A Better Route Planner app. ABRP)

For me the only thing I really miss is the remote start from a distance.

 

[River.Guy]

For me the only thing I really miss is the remote start from a distance.

I was going to cancel everything except the remote function, which you can get a la carte for 15 bucks a month. Since I managed to talk them down to 25 a month for the essentials package, opted with that.

 

[Ccoe]

Thank you both. This helps a lot. Is there somewhere that I can see what the different packages are? River.Guy mentioned the Essentials package which I have heard about but don’t know what it includes.

I’m sure that there is a menu of their offerings somewhere but I have yet to find it.

 

[finch4ever]

I am wondering the same thing atm. With winter coming I am wondering if it is worth it only for the remote start.

Edit: I find that the key fob remote start is ok from my home but anywhere else it is no good, I need to be at like 25meters for it to work

 

[MiG]

Thank you both. This helps a lot. Is there somewhere that I can see what the different packages are? River.Guy mentioned the Essentials package which I have heard about but don’t know what it includes.

I’m sure that there is a menu of their offerings somewhere but I have yet to find it.

Start here. Scroll down and you'll see the plans and pricing. I have a 2022 EUV with SuperCruise so that has some additional SuperCruise connectivity.

(I thought I saw that 2023 purchases include more OnStar but not sure.)

 

[River.Guy]

This link: Compare Plans & Prices for OnStar and Connected Services gives you a chart with a side-by-side comparison of all plans, and what they include.

 

[Ccoe]

Thank you all. I now feel more comfortable dropping OnStar

 

[lynoise]

onboard Nav are still there.

My gmnav+ app says a data connection is required. Connecting to my phones wifi tether doesnt work either, it actually says an onstar dataplan is required.

 

[accelerus]

My gmnav+ app says a data connection is required. Connecting to my phones wifi tether doesnt work either, it actually says an onstar dataplan is required.

That's OnStar for you -- they say an app needs data but it has to be THEIR data plan, that's overpriced like ****. No experience with GMnav+ but I can promise you that android auto/apple car play is light years better, you can also integrate A Better Route planner as well if you like and use it for road tripping charging locations/calculations.

When they intentionally design a system to be a cumbersome, expensive, and shitty as possible, I nope out. I only had like 1 month of free onstar with my 22 EUV, they won't be getting a dime from me under any circumstance.

The funny part is for all the money they are scamming off people for data plans and "premium connectivity" you'd think they could build the myChevrolet app that actually works after 7 years. The thing has been a turd since 2016 when I had my Volt.

 

[Ccoe]

Thanks. I’m intentionally not using the built in NAV, opting instead for Apple Maps on CarPlay. I’m doing everything I can to not use OnStar. The monthly payment is the same as a fill-up at the gas station.

 

[lynoise]

That's OnStar for you -- they say an app needs data but it has to be THEIR data plan, that's overpriced like ****. No experience with GMnav+ but I can promise you that android auto/apple car play is light years better, you can also integrate A Better Route planner as well if you like and use it for road tripping charging locations/calculations.

When they intentionally design a system to be a cumbersome, expensive, and shitty as possible, I nope out. I only had like 1 month of free onstar with my 22 EUV, they won't be getting a dime from me under any circumstance.

The funny part is for all the money they are scamming off people for data plans and "premium connectivity" you'd think they could build the myChevrolet app that actually works after 7 years. The thing has been a turd since 2016 when I had my Volt.

Agreed 110%!
I use Google maps via android auto.
I tried getting around the mobile data via the android developer options settings (the ent system runs android) but they disabled it with the last update I received when the car was in service. Funny enough I enabled a debug overlay last time I was able to get to it and the overlay is still there with no way to disable it now that I can no longer get to the developer options screen.

 

[MABY]

Not much! I didn’t extend OnStar on my new 2019 GMC Sierra nor our 2022 Blot EUV that we bought in September. Navigation can be done with Google, remote starting done with the fob and all I use the app for is to check on the charge status. If I was using the Bolt for long commutes or trips then maybe, maybe I would consider it but as a short commuter vehicle it’s not needed IMO.

 

[Sean Nelson]

My 5-year stint of free OnStar ended a couple of months ago, and so far I haven't noticed any difference. I lost the ability to remotely start the car from my phone quite some time back when they came out with a new version of the MyChevy app that no longer works on my Samsung Galaxy S7 - so the only thing I'm really getting out of my OnStar connectivity is text messages every time the car stops charging. Those are still appearing the same as always.

 

[RQuickDraw]

My 5-year stint of free OnStar ended a couple of months ago, and so far I haven't noticed any difference. I lost the ability to remotely start the car from my phone quite some time back when they came out with a new version of the MyChevy app that no longer works on my Samsung Galaxy S7 - so the only thing I'm really getting out of my OnStar connectivity is text messages every time the car stops charging. Those are still appearing the same as always.

 

[Isaac]

Hello,
Curious if I don’t keep the On-Star will I regret it. Also, how much people are actually paying for it. Thanks!

 

[RQuickDraw]

Sean, how long does it take for OnStar to text you when your car is done charging? Mine takes up to 2 hours after charging.

 

[BoltEUV]

I got the Essential package which includes remote start/lock/unlock etc. for $25 a month. The remote start was $10 which I also have on my other vehicle. OnStar is not a necessity but a nicety.

 

[Sean Nelson]

Sean, how long does it take for OnStar to text you when your car is done charging? Mine takes up to 2 hours after charging.

Mine comes within several seconds of the car being unplugged or completing a charge. The only time there's any significant delay is when I'm beyond cellular coverage.

 

[Electric Idiot]

OnStar is spying on you and reporting (selling) your bad driving habits to insurance companies. OnStar/Bolt and Privacy Information

I have zero interest in OnStar or apps in general. I don't even connect my phone to the car.

I have to go out to my car unplug it and remember to close the charge door.

Get in, start it up and say in my best authoritative voice "F you Chevy and double F you OnStar!"

But I don't know if they can hear me since nothing is hooked to my car.