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I am sure this has been asked before, but I can't find anything.
When will newly-made Bolts with a new battery be available to buy?

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Previous thread links?

I ask because I think I am going for a MSRP swap to a new Bolt and wondering if it can even be done, and if so, how long the wait is?
And just curious in general for the sake of the Bolt overall.....and non-Tesla EVs for that matter...
 

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I am sure this has been asked before, but I can't find anything.
When will newly-made Bolts with a new battery be available to buy?

Speculation?
Previous thread links?

I ask because I think I am going for a MSRP swap to a new Bolt and wondering if it can even be done, and if so, how long the wait is?
And just curious in general for the sake of the Bolt overall.....and non-Tesla EVs for that matter...
I have a MSRP Swap in the works for a 22 EV. I have the order# and 6 dig repurchase# but of course waiting on the Orion plant to restart which won't happen till well into 22.

Oh, been working on this since Sept. And your mileage may vary depending on the state you live in.
 

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I have a swap going for a 22 also. The tricky part is getting a dealer to give you a buyers order number. Most dealers give excuses for why they can't. But they can cause I finally got a number
 

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I have a MSRP Swap in the works for a 22 EV. I have the order# and 6 dig repurchase# but of course waiting on the Orion plant to restart which won't happen till well into 22.

Oh, been working on this since Sept. And your mileage may vary depending on the state you live in.
Was your scheduled to be made on the week of Nov 15 too? My EUV Swap was scheduled for production Nov 15 (status 3400) but then they decided to shut down Orion site for the rest of the year.
 

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I've been thinking about this, having a 2022 on order. Since, my 2019 got its new battery, which makes me far less interested in getting the 2022 considering the delays - it was originally supposed to be built in August.

Considering that GM seems to be prioritizing replacements, that no additional battery production plants have been announced, that the efficiency of the replacement process will increase (or has now reached its cruise speed), that the semiconductor rarity will not end anytime soon and that the battery yield is limited, I doubt the Bolt production will reach the normal level in 2022.

I even started considering that GM may actually stop the Bolt production and instead focus on bringing its Ultium replacement sooner - which would actually make a lot of sense for them.

Anyhow, we'll know soon enough - early next year...
 

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Question one: Why would GM swap us out for a new Bolt when they can just have us wait for a new battery instead? Isn't it cheaper for them to just replace the battery in our current Bolt rather than give us a whole new car? Is it because they have to for some reason if we request it? I am also concerned that if we select a swap, that later on they may "pull the rug out from under you", and just say they changed their mind and will just replace the battery in your current Bolt?
 

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Question two: If you do manage to get a swap done, do you have to turn in your current Bolt at that time? Or do you keep it until the new Bolt is ready and just swap them?
 

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I have a swap going for a 22 also. The tricky part is getting a dealer to give you a buyers order number. Most dealers give excuses for why they can't. But they can cause I finally got a number
This brings up the worst part about doing a swap (to me anyways)..... dealing with the dealership......
How did you get them to finally do it? Did GM call them for you and get it done? I really dread the idea of dealing with a dealer when they are getting nothing out of it.
 

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I have a MSRP Swap in the works for a 22 EV. I have the order# and 6 dig repurchase# but of course waiting on the Orion plant to restart which won't happen till well into 22.

Oh, been working on this since Sept. And your mileage may vary depending on the state you live in.
I stated my process 8/22/21, but still haven't spoken to a "repurchase specialist" yet.... been told another 3 week or so.

But it seems the plant is closed at least until next year?? Well that partially answers my question on when new Bolts will be out again.....

I am happy to wait for a new Bolt for 6 months or more, but with all these variable and unknowns, it is getting tempting to just do a buyback and start fresh and be done with the whole battery situation.....
 

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This brings up the worst part about doing a swap (to me anyways)..... dealing with the dealership......
How did you get them to finally do it? Did GM call them for you and get it done? I really dread the idea of dealing with a dealer when they are getting nothing out of it.
It helps to have a sales fellow you have a relation with. Like the one you bought the car from. Otherwise it probably takes a whole bunch of phone calls. I was up to 5 calls with one dealer then my sales guy came to thru with the number. Who originally said no.

The dealer recommend by the “specialist” kept giving excuses.

Some people have had no issues

If you have a existing loan it may be worth it. As you can get the credit from MSRP diff. In any case I would hold off till 2022 for the tax credit

Good luck
 

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It helps to have a sales fellow you have a relation with. Like the one you bought the car from. Otherwise it probably takes a whole bunch of phone calls. I was up to 5 calls with one dealer then my sales guy came to thru with the number. Who originally said no.

The dealer recommend by the “specialist” kept giving excuses.

Some people have had no issues

If you have a existing loan it may be worth it. As you can get the credit from MSRP diff. In any case I would hold off till 2022 for the tax credit

Good luck
Always good to have a guy in the inside yes.....but alas, i don't have one.

I dunno man, I don't have a loan on the Bolt, it is paid for.

Also, IF a tax credit does get approved, then just selling back my current Bolt and waiting for new Bolts to be made may be worth it?
Maybe can even get a new bolt for less than selling back current Bolt for?
Or will Chevy just raise the price of the Bolt by the tax credit amount?

I do have a cheap gas car I can borrow to drive in the interim time from when I sell back current Bolt and waiting for new Bolt to be made....... (Bolt is my only car).
 

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While I was at the dealership today getting the software update for my 2019, I looked at the new Bolt EUV's they had tucked in the back corner of the lot. I counted 18 very dirty cars just sitting there not able to be sold. I wouldn't swap or buy today though and would wait for the federal legislation to take effect and possibly save some money on the purchase. The salesman was guessing they could sell them in January, but stated that he didn't know for sure. Still, the EUV seemed nice, but that slow DCFC kills it for me. Too bad because I'd be tempted when my lease is up but now will have to move on to something else.
 

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While I was at the dealership today getting the software update for my 2019, I looked at the new Bolt EUV's they had tucked in the back corner of the lot. I counted 18 very dirty cars just sitting there not able to be sold. I wouldn't swap or buy today though and would wait for the federal legislation to take effect and possibly save some money on the purchase. The salesman was guessing they could sell them in January, but stated that he didn't know for sure. Still, the EUV seemed nice, but that slow DCFC kills it for me. Too bad because I'd be tempted when my lease is up but now will have to move on to something else.
The dealers were told last week that the 22's on the dealer lots were last in order to get their battery replaced (and the pending software update will not affect the stop-sale order). The time frame I was subsequently told by my sales guy was late spring. Another member here was told late spring or early summer (same dealer/same sales guy). Yesterday I gave up my deposit on an in-stock EUV and ordered a Kona.
 

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I stopped by a dealer and asked a random sales-guy if I could just sit in a Bolt EUV to see if I like the leather or not.
I was standing right by my current bolt and told him i was going for a swap.

I was told no, I said not drive, just sit, still said no......

Add this to the many reasons I dread dealerships.

REdiculousness....

made a plain 'ol buyback seem that much better after talkin to this sales-tool.
 

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While I was at the dealership today getting the software update for my 2019, I looked at the new Bolt EUV's they had tucked in the back corner of the lot. I counted 18 very dirty cars just sitting there not able to be sold. I wouldn't swap or buy today though and would wait for the federal legislation to take effect and possibly save some money on the purchase. The salesman was guessing they could sell them in January, but stated that he didn't know for sure. Still, the EUV seemed nice, but that slow DCFC kills it for me. Too bad because I'd be tempted when my lease is up but now will have to move on to something else.
I'd be happy to wait till January..... if we knew it actually was January.
I believe more the spring/summer estimate myself.

I know a lot of people don't like the 50kw DCFC rate, but I am fine with it.
I find it "fast enough" and it is probably better for the battery health anyways.
 

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I stopped by a dealer and asked a random sales-guy if I could just sit in a Bolt EUV to see if I like the leather or not.
I was standing right by my current bolt and told him i was going for a swap.

I was told no, I said not drive, just sit, still said no......

Add this to the many reasons I dread dealerships.

REdiculousness....

made a plain 'ol buyback seem that much better after talkin to this sales-tool.
Yeah, because GM said so. See https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2021/RCSB-21V650-7473.pdf.
"All involved vehicles that are in dealer inventory must be held and not delivered to customers,
dealer traded, used for loaners, or used for demonstration purposes until the repair contained in
this bulletin has been performed on the vehicle."

Also see page 45.

The above verbiage is all over the recall bulletins at 2022 CHEVROLET BOLT EUV SUV FWD | NHTSA and their counterparts at Fire recalls summary and timeline.

Would really help if folks looked at the docs uploaded to NHTSA for the vehicle(s) in question.
 

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Yeah, because GM said so. See https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2021/RCSB-21V650-7473.pdf.
"All involved vehicles that are in dealer inventory must be held and not delivered to customers,
dealer traded, used for loaners, or used for demonstration purposes until the repair contained in
this bulletin has been performed on the vehicle."

Also see page 45.

The above verbiage is all over the recall bulletins at 2022 CHEVROLET BOLT EUV SUV FWD | NHTSA and their counterparts at Fire recalls summary and timeline.

Would really help if folks looked at the docs uploaded to NHTSA for the vehicle(s) in question.
I asked to SIT in it.
 

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Question one: Why would GM swap us out for a new Bolt when they can just have us wait for a new battery instead? Isn't it cheaper for them to just replace the battery in our current Bolt rather than give us a whole new car? Is it because they have to for some reason if we request it? I am also concerned that if we select a swap, that later on they may "pull the rug out from under you", and just say they changed their mind and will just replace the battery in your current Bolt?
They have. They did that to me and a few other people. They did give a coupon for $5000CDN off a new chevy vehicle within a year with very restrictive terms though. To be used on a brand new vehicle only. No demo cars and no used.

Currently talking to the BBB about it. Not happy.
 
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