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wifi hotspot/android auto

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i have had my 2023 Bolt for a month had issues with hotspot(unlimited data plan) turning off connection when starting android auto the whole time
this was tech supports answer.............


I'd like to apologize for the issues regarding your in vehicle Wi-Fi and your Android Auto functionality. I know how important it is to be able to use all of your vehicles features. Unfortunately, the two features are unable to run simultaneously. For further details regarding the functionality of the Android Auto, please contact your dealership or the Android Auto support team.
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Technology.... who knows. All I know is AA has never worked well. I can't see the reason for a car with wifi either.

Maybe it is the order or some setting could be changed to prevent this prior to you getting in car and starting?
i have had my 2023 Bolt for a month had issues with hotspot(unlimited data plan) turning off connection when starting android auto the whole time
this was tech supports answer.............


I'd like to apologize for the issues regarding your in vehicle Wi-Fi and your Android Auto functionality. I know how important it is to be able to use all of your vehicles features. Unfortunately, the two features are unable to run simultaneously. For further details regarding the functionality of the Android Auto, please contact your dealership or the Android Auto support team.
Well, I just did a short 150 mile road trip. I was running waze on Android auto while my wife had her tablet connect to my Bolt EUV wifi, so I believe the answer above is incorrect. I can't tell you the settings or how it worked, but I know I was able to run Android auto AND have a tablet connected to vehicle wifi two days ago.
i have had my 2023 Bolt for a month had issues with hotspot(unlimited data plan) turning off connection when starting android auto the whole time
this was tech supports answer.............


I'd like to apologize for the issues regarding your in vehicle Wi-Fi and your Android Auto functionality. I know how important it is to be able to use all of your vehicles features. Unfortunately, the two features are unable to run simultaneously. For further details regarding the functionality of the Android Auto, please contact your dealership or the Android Auto support team.
This would seem to imply that wireless Android Auto (AA) and CarPlay (CP) use the vehicle's WiFi connection.

Bluetooth, as commonly implemented, has been primarily for audio transmission. Audio transmission requires a relatively low bandwidth, which is easily carried by Bluetooth.

AA and CP are often transmitting video signals. Video requires far more bandwidth than audio, and all but the most recent implementations of high-speed Bluetooth are incapable of the necessary bandwidth.

Other vehicle manufacturers have implemented wireless AA and CP (BMW was among the first) by using the Bluetooth connection to perform handshaking duties to set up a WiFi connection between the vehicle and phone. WiFi is then used to do all of the heavy lifting of the higher speed data transmission.

If the vehicle only has the capability of maintaining a single WiFi connection (one radio), then using it for wireless AA or CP would seem to make it unavailable for another WiFi connection.

The above is my understanding of wireless AA and CP, as it's been implemented for several years. How it's specifically implemented in the Bolt is not factually known to me, but again, based on the response from GM, it seems like this is the case. Further comments from others would seem to question that assumption.

If the OP's vehicle is not the EUV, is it possible that lower trims only have a single WiFi radio, and higher trims have two?
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This would seem to imply that wireless Android Auto (AA) and CarPlay (CP) use the vehicle's WiFi connection.

Bluetooth, as commonly implemented, has been primarily for audio transmission. Audio transmission requires a relatively low bandwidth, which is easily carried by Bluetooth.

AA and CP are often transmitting video signals. Video requires far more bandwidth than audio, and all but the most recent implementations of high-speed Bluetooth are incapable of the necessary bandwidth.

Other vehicle manufacturers have implemented wireless AA and CP (BMW was among the first) by using the Bluetooth connection to perform handshaking duties to set up a WiFi connection between the vehicle and phone. WiFi is then used to do all of the heavy lifting of the higher speed data transmission.

If the vehicle only has the capability of maintaining a single WiFi connection (one radio), then using it for wireless AA or CP would seem to make it unavailable for another WiFi connection.

The above is my understanding of wireless AA and CP, as it's been implemented for several years. How it's specifically implemented in the Bolt is not factually known to me, but again, based on the response from GM, it seems like this is the case. Further comments from others would seem to question that assumption.

If the OP's vehicle is not the EUV, is it possible that lower trims only have a single WiFi radio, and higher trims have two?
The Bolt employs a dual band router - 1 internal band for CP/AA, and a second for the WiFi hotspot if you pay for that option.
The Bolt employs a dual band router - 1 internal band for CP/AA, and a second for the WiFi hotspot if you pay for that option.
That certainly makes sense.
I have been unable to run AA unless my phone's data connection is turned on. I don't think it's possible to run AA using only the car's WiFi.
I'm normally pretty tech saavy, but when it comes to android auto and phone to car connection I'm pretty lost. I do know i have AA set up to automatically start up Waze when i turn on my car, and it does that perfectly fine. But i do know it will ONLY do that if bluetooth "on" on my phone. So, it is operating how i want, but i don't know how i did it. And as mentioned above, i had waze via android auto and a tablet connected to car wifi (yes, i pay onstar, ugh) working at th3 same time.
I am an Apple Carplay user, so can't speak to Android Auto (AA). However, here is what I surmise:

If you are using Wireless Carplay or AA, the phone needs to make a WiFi connection to the car. This is different than/separate from connecting to the car's AT&T Hotspot (also WiFi).

For Carplay or AA to work, the phone needs a data connection, whether wireless or wired. This can either be the phone's cellular connection or a WiFi connection (i.e. the car's Hotspot).

I have a 2022 Bolt EV 1LT, and use Wireless Carplay with the phone connected to the AT&T Hotspot. Works great!
May be an issue with a previous update to Android Auto. In theory, you should be able to connect wirelessly to Android Auto AND connect to the car's hotspot for data:
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I have been unable to run AA unless my phone's data connection is turned on. I don't think it's possible to run AA using only the car's WiFi.
It is likely using the phone's cell network data connection to the Internet, and WiFi to send it to the Bolt.

What a kludge. (Not a hit on GM, but on the technology.)
It it possible that you are using the hotspot of the phone and then connecting car to the hotspot which in turn offers wifi to clients?
The Bolt employs a dual band router - 1 internal band for CP/AA, and a second for the WiFi hotspot if you pay for that option.
Are you saying all models and trims and years have received the same radio and router hardware? That'd be nice.
Are you saying all models and trims and years have received the same radio and router hardware? That'd be nice.
I don’t know. I would expect it is only those models that have wireless AA/CP.
I think the main point is that connecting to wifi doesn't work on the same phone running android auto, purposely I feel. Yes, you can connect another ipad not running android auto to the car hotspot and that works even while you are running android on another CELLULAR phone, but you cannot lets say run android auto and try to use the car hotspot for your android auto internet connection for some reason.

I was trying to put a dedicated phone in the car for android auto that didn't have a cellular connect, and let that be contaminated by all the android auto stuff, then I planned to use the hotspot on my personal cell phone to allow the android auto phone to connect to the internet. BUT, everytime android auto starts the wifi connection mysteriously gets disconnected on the dedicated AA non-cellular phone.

It seems that they have purposely made it so you have to use a cellular phone for the android auto even though a wifi connection to the internet should work fine. I thought they would at least make it so it would work with the car hotspot since you have to pay for that, but thats when you get the nice exclamation mark that the wifi won't connect to internet on the AA phone, even though you can grab an ipad and use the same wifi to connect to the internet just fine.

I think they want you to have to use your personal cellular phone so they can take it over and control what you are doing and how you are doing it. Not for me. I had to make an emergency level call the other day and I literally could not get android auto to let me have my phone back no matter what I did.
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I think the main point is that connecting to wifi doesn't work on the same phone running android auto, purposely I feel. Yes, you can connect another ipad not running android auto to the car hotspot and that works even while you are running android on another CELLULAR phone, but you cannot lets say run android auto and try to use the car hotspot for your android auto internet connection for some reason.

I was trying to put a dedicated phone in the car for android auto that didn't have a cellular connect, and let that be contaminated by all the android auto stuff, then I planned to use the hotspot on my personal cell phone to allow the android auto phone to connect to the internet. BUT, everytime android auto starts the wifi connection mysteriously gets disconnected on the dedicated AA non-cellular phone.

It seems that they have purposely made it so you have to use a cellular phone for the android auto even though a wifi connection to the internet should work fine. I thought they would at least make it so it would work with the car hotspot since you have to pay for that, but thats when you get the nice exclamation mark that the wifi won't connect to internet on the AA phone, even though you can grab an ipad and use the same wifi to connect to the internet just fine.

I think they want you to have to use your personal cellular phone so they can take it over and control what you are doing and how you are doing it. Not for me. I had to make an emergency level call the other day and I literally could not get android auto to let me have my phone back no matter what I did.
Update: Ok, I tried plugging in the USB cable again like someone posted earlier and got the wifi to stay on and android auto was actually working fully with internet access over just wifi. I thought I had tried that and couldn't get it to work, but as usual the sequence of steps I think matters, I will continue to experiment with this method, I don't mind plugging it in because I am just going to leave this dedicated phone in the car anyway. I happen to be using my home wifi sitting in the garage but it shouldn't matter what wifi you are using, you just have to have the USB plugged in too to keep it from disconnecting the wifi when android auto is running.
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