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  • Maybe, if they commit to replacing all bad batteries in current vehicles, then I'd have some faith

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Or is the name tarnished beyond hope at this point.
I know GM said the mid 2020, 2021 and theoretically 2022 are not effected because batteries changed? Changed what, just the assembly? Components? Will we ever know? If they 'changed' something, does that mean they new exactly what to change to avoid issues?
So many questions, so few answers.
 

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I probably still would. But I can understand the trepidation from a never-owner. It's really been picked up by mainstream media. Fast Money even briefly covered it.
 

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I still would because I've had it and understand the risks, or lack thereof, for new Bolts. It's hard to recommend it to anyone else right now though.
 

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It is mid- ‘19 , not ‘20.

I get it that “Bolt EV Battery Fires!!!!!!!!” is being tossed around so much that the entire forum is running around like a headless chicken since yesterday.

Can we please leave the 2020 and later Bolts out of the panic? Until a fire occurs in the later years, the manufacturing defect is limited strictly to battery cells manufactured in the South Korea Ochang factory (not the Incheon factory).

…..or we might as well change the name of this forum to “Chicken Little buys an EV”.
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Prior to the most recent GM guidance based on fires after the fix, I would have. Now... I'm not so sure. The way I look at it is, if GM spends months coming up with a permanent fix and that fix ends up not working, how do we know the new ones are safe? They were wrong about the fix. Could they be wrong about only the packs from South Korea being involved? They are still nearly identical packs even in 2022 and still produced by LG. After the fix-fail, would it really surprise anyone if in a year or so, it is found that 2020, 2021, and 2022 Bolts are starting to catch fire?

Now I don't think that's likely but still, trust is marred at this point. I mean, the history is:

  • GM says prelim fix should prevent fires: they were wrong
  • GM said final fix will prevent fires: they were wrong
  • GM said only South Korea packs are involved: could they be wrong?

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Smartphone fires have been going on for a decade, how many of you are viewing this on one now?
I use my smart phone to look things up on the road. I wouldn't use it to look at the internet at any other time. Why would you look at the world through a keyhole, if you didn't have too?!
 

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Or is the name tarnished beyond hope at this point.
I know GM said the mid 2020, 2021 and theoretically 2022 are not effected because batteries changed? Changed what, just the assembly? Components? Will we ever know? If they 'changed' something, does that mean they new exactly what to change to avoid issues?
So many questions, so few answers.
It's already been made very clear that the effected Bolts were from 2017 through mid-2019, as their battery packs were manufactured in Korea. Since mid-2019, the packs have been made in Michigan, and are not affected by the fires, the recall, nor the strongly-suspected internal cell separator failure mode.

To answer the survey question - Yes, in fact I already did...a new 2021 Premier, which I park and charge inside my garage. I have it set to only charge to 90% as a battery longevity move (that I have always done).

I sleep like a baby.
 

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I use my smart phone to look things up on the road. I wouldn't use it to look at the internet at any other time. Why would you look at the world through a keyhole, if you didn't have too?!
But it's right in your hand! What if that's the moment it goes off? Smartphones should probably be kept outside the home and stored in a bucket of water when not in use.
 

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Well I bought used, and the reasons I went with the Bolt are still there, particularly for used, price and range.
More makes are coming out with better range, but the Bolt's contemporaries, taller sub compacts not larger crossovers(pricier too), are kind of limited. There's the Leaf, and I'm not a fan of Nissan, there's the model 3 or maybe Y, don't like lack of buttons and expensive, and that's mostly it. The rest are more crossover style, Niro, Id4, Volvos, Audis, Mach-e. I just need a cheap little commuter car to get back and forth to work, the Bolt is just too perfect for that.

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But it's right in your hand! What if that's the moment it goes off? Smartphones should probably be kept outside the home and stored in a bucket of water when not in use.
My smart phone lives on a shelf. I check it every few days to clear spam texts. If I was still working, it would be in my glovebox on workdays. Don Juan said a sorcerer should always have his hands empty. ;)
 

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I now use my ‘20 exactly the same way I used the ‘17 prior to the original announcement about defective batteries. As it was intended to. Charge to 100% whenever I need the range. Parked in the attached garage every single night.

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One thing that’s overlooked in a lot of the panic is the question of “Why did GM move the battery manufacturing from South Korea to the US in the first place?”

Because it’s likely that it’s more expensive to manufacture them in the US than in South Korea, so it wasn’t for financial reasons. In fact, moving all the tooling, training new employees, and so on, must have been quite expensive.

That means it‘s likely for functional reasons, such as greater reliability and/or reducing the risk of problems. They very likely knew something was not right about the packs being produced in SK — enough to move the entire battery production to the US.

While this sucks for those who bought in early, it also gives me confidence that they recognized a problem with the earlier packs and acted to fix it, long before the fires became an issue (i.e. around early 2019).

Even though their behavior about the fires has not been forthcoming, I think they know (or at least strongly suspect) what the issue is. My best guess is that the waffling from GM happening now is the bean counters looking at a huge bill to do buybacks or battery replacements, and figuring out how to try to minimize the impact of that. We can only hope they do the right thing… but even if they don’t, that doesn’t change the fact that they likely recognized the problem and acted to fix it in 2019.


Prior to the most recent GM guidance based on fires after the fix, I would have. Now... I'm not so sure. The way I look at it is, if GM spends months coming up with a permanent fix and that fix ends up not working, how do we know the new ones are safe? They were wrong about the fix. Could they be wrong about only the packs from South Korea being involved? They are still nearly identical packs even in 2022 and still produced by LG. After the fix-fail, would it really surprise anyone if in a year or so, it is found that 2020, 2021, and 2022 Bolts are starting to catch fire?

Now I don't think that's likely but still, trust is marred at this point. I mean, the history is:

  • GM says prelim fix should prevent fires: they were wrong
  • GM said final fix will prevent fires: they were wrong
  • GM said only South Korea packs are involved: could they be wrong?

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My smart phone lives on a shelf. I check it every few days to clear spam texts. If I was still working, it would be in my glovebox on workdays. Don Juan said a sorcerer should always have his hands empty. ;)
But when it is in your hand, oh the danger!
 
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