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Bye then!! Carplay is overblown and overplayed. You don't need it. You are also getting generous years worth of data with GM, and you don't even need to use it... just pair the the vehicle to your phones hotspot. The MyChevrolet app for years has offered Battery management functionality and remote commands free for YEARs on the Bolt and late model Volts as well.

Charging Curve on many of GM's EVs is heavily dependent on temperatures and they also prioritize cabin comfort so if you want to run your HVAC it will lower charge speeds.
This has improved a LOT in the past year with the Ultium Dip almost completely gone and the curves smoothing out. GM has not been idle. Oh and there is a difference between Peek charge rate and average... No EV holds their Peek charge rate forever, it will eventually taper.
As for the LFP chemistry especially from CATL it should make charging the Bolt here a breeze.
Yes, how terrible it is to get into the car and automatically have everything sync'd and working without even taking my phone out of of my pocket. Oh no, all the stuff I was doing on my phone is automatically available now on the car, so outdated and terrible huh? Or the ability to get into any make or model of car and still have the same familiar interface across the board? Automatically knowing where everything is in infotainment, even though you've only been sitting in a brand new car for 10 seconds.

You really don't understand the product you are shilling do you? the "years" of onstar wasn't offered to everyone all the time. The 22 EUV loaded premier I purchased brand new from a dealer lot, only had 3 months of "anything". My 2nd gen volt did have years of remote battery/charge checks.... despite 6 phones, 10 years, and 2 cars, 3G/4G/5G, wifi? didn't matter how strong a signal you had, commands to start remotely or unlock were a crapshoot at best.

Based on your description of the myChevrolet app, it's dreadfully apparent you've never used it. Even when you pay extra money for it, it still doesn't work for the vast majority of people. There's 10+ years of threads all over this forum and the Volt forum. Perhaps do your research next time you decide to try and sell people on a product feature that simply doesn't work.

The fact you are so eager to be locked behind a paywall in your own car and never own anything you pay for is frightening.
 
Range is a little improved but will be much better on long trips because of the 26 min to 80% charging and improved efficiency with Heat/AC because of the heat pump, kudos Chevy! Will adaptive cruise have lane centering or do you need to option Supercruise for that? I don't see any mention of heated/ventilated seats, heated steering wheel, I hope there will be a comfort package for those. I also don't see any evidence that a Bose premium sound will be offered, that's a bummer.
 
I’m really excited about Android Automotive in the vehicle instead of phone mirroring. Phone mirroring has been so unreliable that I needed to subscribe to OnStar to use Maps+. Android Auto was constantly losing connection in the middle of trips and not reconnecting which was sometimes causing a safety issue when I was trying to navigate.
 
Just noticed something... the regen paddle is gone or has been relocated:
Sadly, the ROD is history. It's one of my favorite features. It'll take a lot of us a long time to stop reaching for that paddle. My wife is our Bolt driver and I have the Ioniq 5 and, after over 1-1/2 years, I still try to use it to switch off the cruise control.
 
10-80% in 26 minutes, that’s 15-20 minutes faster than Equinox EV (42-45 minutes) and faster than Tesla Model 3 or Model Y (29-31 minutes). Good job Bolt !
I'm sure you know that efficiency is also important here, i.e., how much actual range you get when you replenish that 10 - 80%. My rough calculation says that it will get about 6.4 - 6.8 miles of range per minute on average over those 26 minutes (380 - 400 mi range per hour) assuming 3.75 - 4 mi/kWh efficiency. By this metric, the Teslas may beat the new bolt.

Don't get me wrong, this is a vast improvement over the previous Bolt and will make it a competent road-tripper, especially for the price.
 
Some reviewers use a simulated road trip test to try to predict how well the car does on long trips. The run it down to 10%, then charge for 15 minutes and see how far it will go at 80 mph before getting back down to 10%. Teslas are the best at that among the 400 volt cars. Most 800 volt cars beat them handily, though. You can see Out of Spec's results here. Charging speed is a big deal, but efficiency is also a big deal. Get both and you have a Porche Taycan.

Its efficiency made the current Bolt acceptable, if not ideal, for road trips if you follow the charging curve. Similar efficiency in the new one along with 2-1/2 times fast charging will really give it a boost.
 
I'm sure you know that efficiency is also important here,
I don’t expect the efficiency worse than it is now. ABRP has :
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So, the Bolt EUV is about 10-25% less efficient than a Tesla. But this doesn’t say the Bolt will not be a great road tripper, if GM keeps its promises and delivers what it said.
 
Honda needs to come back to GM and rebadge this as the Honda Fit EV. Give us AA/CP and it will sell like hotcakes! :)
That's not too far off.
Where I am in Denver, the demographic here (entitled white transplants) wouldn't be caught dead in a GM-badged car. They ***** about the cost of an EV and when told about a budget Equinox, pretend they didn't hear you and then in the next breath say how they wish they could afford a Prologue EV.

They'll all buy Leafs instead.
 
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Yes, how terrible it is to get into the car and automatically have everything sync'd and working without even taking my phone out of of my pocket. Oh no, all the stuff I was doing on my phone is automatically available now on the car, so outdated and terrible huh? Or the ability to get into any make or model of car and still have the same familiar interface across the board? Automatically knowing where everything is in infotainment, even though you've only been sitting in a brand new car for 10 seconds.

You really don't understand the product you are shilling do you? the "years" of onstar wasn't offered to everyone all the time. The 22 EUV loaded premier I purchased brand new from a dealer lot, only had 3 months of "anything". My 2nd gen volt did have years of remote battery/charge checks.... despite 6 phones, 10 years, and 2 cars, 3G/4G/5G, wifi? didn't matter how strong a signal you had, commands to start remotely or unlock were a crapshoot at best.

Based on your description of the myChevrolet app, it's dreadfully apparent you've never used it. Even when you pay extra money for it, it still doesn't work for the vast majority of people. There's 10+ years of threads all over this forum and the Volt forum. Perhaps do your research next time you decide to try and sell people on a product feature that simply doesn't work.

The fact you are so eager to be locked behind a paywall in your own car and never own anything you pay for is frightening.
LOL I use it daily and it has never failed for me on my MY23 Bolt EUV. I've only had some issues with it with my17 and 19 Volts, and I started using it when I had my MY14 Volt now that was the most flaky.

This is what came with my EUV, and what comes with all of GM's Ultium Vehicles is far more generous, especially with Remote Access and Digital Services with OnStar One. oh and I do pay for some extra benefits.

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Sadly, the ROD is history. It's one of my favorite features. It'll take a lot of us a long time to stop reaching for that paddle. My wife is our Bolt driver and I have the Ioniq 5 and, after over 1-1/2 years, I still try to use it to switch off the cruise control.
people should be poking GM now to give it back as an option.
 
"meh" is all that comes to my mind. my 22 EUV premier will last as long as it lasts, then I'll buy something, anything other than a GM. My current car is fine, don't get me wrong. It's the company itself that has some real idiots calling the shots.

Obligatory "no AA/CarPlay" no sale - i cancelled a Blazer EV order over it, and I'll stand firm.
Faster charging? Cool, but if it's anything like the charging curve of the Equinox, people are still going to be disappointed in some scenarios. (multiple tests showing a MAX rate of 100kw on the Equinox in some situations)
GM making it very clear they view the car as a subscription model going forward. The fact that AA/CarPlay is 100% possible on the hardware (Honda Prologue uses same modules/part numbers just different screens/software) That means someone sat in a meeting and made the conscious decision to remove a feature people love even though it was already there and working just fine.

Really though the nail in the coffin is having to deal with the "MyChevrolet" app for 10+ years at this point. From the Volt, to my Bolt, it's useless, even when you pay for all the bells and whistles. Just flat useless.

My EUV has been great, trouble free, takes me everywhere I want to go. The company behind it? Not so much. Zero confidence going forward, so zero money for them.
It can safely be said that the majority of automobile shoppers are not going to buy a 2027 Bolt. You’ll just be one of them. Stop complaining; you have other choices.
 
Just noticed something... the regen paddle is gone or has been relocated:
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And, yet, another reason to stick with the old Bolt. It would be okay if they took the programmed stoplight 'creep' out. That was the only thing I used the regen paddle for, anyway. I guess the trade-off is there's (finally) an ambient temperature gauge in the upper right corner where there was previously...nothing...

Looks like the GOM is now a single read-out, too, but moving the direction heading from the upper middle to the left doesn't seem like an improvement. If they had left it in the upper center, they could have kept the clock to the upper left.

I wonder if they took the lag out of the button response. It was quite noticable with the radio. And then there's the infuriating lack of tactile response to the start button. Just a tap wouldn't do it; a deliberate push was required. My grungy old Priuses from 15 years ago were better in that department.

It's possible some of this stuff can be user-changed, but I wouldn't hold out much hope for it. I'm not feeling much of anything worth trading-in an old Bolt for this new one. Not to mention that the Bolt EV has a lower belt-line / larger front windows to see out of. I still think GM made a mistake by not bringing back the Bolt EV instead of the EUV. The former would have had the entry-level BEV 'car' hatchback market all to itself. The EUV competes in the crowded CUV crossover segment. It wasn't too bad back in 2022-23. But in 2026, well, there are a whole lot more choices.
 
:giggle:Exciting to see the return of the Chevy Bolt. This will be a home run for Chevrolet. A proven, refined third gen Bolt. Possibly the cheapest USA EV available. My 2023 Bolt EUV, my third Bolt, is two years old, the right color and options. Other than faster DC charging, no incentive for me to consider a upgrade at this time. Looking forward to the actual release.
 
:giggle:Exciting to see the return of the Chevy Bolt. This will be a home run for Chevrolet. A proven, refined third gen Bolt. Possibly the cheapest USA EV available. My 2023 Bolt EUV, my third Bolt, is two years old, the right color and options. Other than faster DC charging, no incentive for me to consider a upgrade at this time. Looking forward to the actual release.
Well, I guess that's the hope. But I sure can't see many current Bolt owners trading for the new one. There are enough demerits with the new one that faster charging and a NACS port doesn't seem like enough to overcome them. OTOH, there will be a whole lot more old Leaf owners trading for the new, much more improved version (and maybe more than a few Bolt owners, too).

As for shoppers completely new to BEV life, they'll also be cross-shopping the Leaf against the Bolt. GM may have their hands full vying for new Bolt sales. Not to mention that some may remember and be put off by the old Bolt battery fire debacle.
 
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I read they were calling it Google car or something like that.

There is almost zero technical information given other than range and charge speed.
It's likely running Android Automotive 14/15 like the current MY26 Hummer EV. As for the the UI, it is the same as the MY25 Silverado EV WT.
I believe there is far more changes in the backend as GM has still been working on their Ultifi stuff even if it isn't called that.

As for how fast the infotainment is, it is much much much better than the old bolts.
 
Sadly, the ROD is history. It's one of my favorite features. It'll take a lot of us a long time to stop reaching for that paddle. My wife is our Bolt driver and I have the Ioniq 5 and, after over 1-1/2 years, I still try to use it to switch off the cruise control.
After a few months of ownership this became my preferred method of cruise deactivation too. It's the only time I reach for it these days.
 
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No more ROD really does suck. I wonder what the rationale behind that was?
GM Engineers at the event claimed it was no longer necessary with the improved OPD system in the vehicle.
 
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