[GJETSON]

I am very glad GM is back to making at least one sensible sized EV. They could get me to consider trading in our 2017 Bolt, if they bring back the Bolt EV. Maybe they can call it the Spark.

 

[mrhockey172000_8613]

Bigger screens and faster charging. Range is the same--247 v. 255. No Apple Car Play. Need a CCS adapter. Nope--keeping the 2023 Bolt EUV. Guessing they are continuing with the nickel and time subscriptions--OnStar, Super Cruise et cetera.

 

[ARob]

Sadly, the ROD is history. It's one of my favorite features. It'll take a lot of us a long time to stop reaching for that paddle. My wife is our Bolt driver and I have the Ioniq 5 and, after over 1-1/2 years, I still try to use it to switch off the cruise control.

confirmed, sadly...

 

[MrHockey172000]

So what changed? Looks like it uses a different plug. Battery any bigger?

Same size battery.

 

[rudiger]

GM Engineers at the event claimed it was no longer necessary with the improved OPD system in the vehicle.

IOW, the typical marketing BS to justify cost-cutting.

Reminds me when Stellantis claimed not having an EV / ICE toggle on the Pacifica Hybrid PHEV made it 'simpler and easier' to drive.

 

[p7wang]

No mention of V2L/V2H1? LFP pack would work well!

 

[rudiger]

Same size battery.

Of a different composition (LiFePo). Cheaper, but heavier.

I think the new Leaf retains a Li-Ion battery, which might be another point in its favor.

 

[MichBolt]

I gave my impressions of the launch event, the new Bolt, and GM's direction here:

https://www.chevybolt.org/threads/2027-bolt-launch-a-salute-to-the-bolt-cult.60263/

 

[MichBolt]

No mention of V2L/V2H1? LFP pack would work well!

They said V2X is supported. Reps from GM Energy Solutions were there to answer questions about their home EVSE / inverter / battery solution.

 

[greendave]

They said V2X is supported. Reps from GM Energy Solutions were there to answer questions about their home EVSE / inverter / battery solution.

Will their be any option for an adapter for V2L, or are you limited to V2H with the fancy GM Energy Solutions station?

 

[ARob]

Will their be any option for an adapter for V2L, or are you limited to V2H with the fancy GM Energy Solutions station?

Unclear, I would expect a V2L adapter, but we didn't get that level of detail.

They did indicate the Energy solution with 10kWh battery, 9.6kW bi-directional charging, Inverter, Home integration panel and aux battery (to start everything during outages) would be roughly an $8K + install cost solution which seems quite competitive. It can integrate with solar too.

 

[liresong]

From post #61:

I am very glad GM is back to making at least one sensible sized EV. They could get me to consider trading in our 2017 Bolt, if they bring back the Bolt EV.

Hmmm....I want & have mentioned the same thing as you. The EV must come back too, as well as the EUV. Lots of people come forward, saying they are happy with the larger Chevy Bolt EUV. Almost all the practical difference between the EV & EUV is the 3 inches of extra rear seat leg space in the EUV. OK, altho I sat comfortably in the EV rear seat. The EUV is 6 inches longer. Those last three extra inches are used to make the EUV "better looking"...... which it isn't.

 

[p7wang]

Unclear, I would expect a V2L adapter, but we didn't get that level of detail.

They did indicate the Energy solution with 10kWh battery, 9.6kW bi-directional charging, Inverter, Home integration panel and aux battery (to start everything during outages) would be roughly an $8K + install cost solution which seems quite competitive. It can integrate with solar too.

I think Installation Cost is what makes this a no-go. I got a quote for solar+battery from a local vendor and the price was over $15K just for the electrical work for the home battery (not GM specific).

GM Energy Home Battery Installation Costs
Overview of Costs
The cost of installing a GM Energy home battery system can vary based on several factors, including the specific products chosen and installation requirements. Here are the key components:

Component	Estimated Cost
GM Energy PowerBank Battery	Approximately $7,700
Installation (varies by provider)	Additional costs apply
Total Estimated Cost	$7,700 + installation fees

Additional Considerations

• Federal Tax Credit: Homeowners may be eligible for a 30% federal tax credit on the GM Energy Home System if installed by December 31, 2025.
• Financing Options: GM Financial offers financing options to help manage the costs of installation and products.
• Professional Installation: It is recommended to use a GM-recommended electrical contractor for installation to ensure proper setup and compliance with local regulations.

Conclusion
The total cost for a GM Energy home battery system, including installation, can exceed $7,700 depending on specific needs and installation fees. It's advisable to consult with a GM Home Energy Consultant for personalized estimates and to explore financing options.
gmenergy.gm.com equinoxevforum.com




BTW...

New Chevy Bolt Leaves "New" Tesla Standard EVs In The Dust

General Motors has been teasing the re-launch of the new Chevy Bolt EV for months, and now the affordable EV cat is finally out of the bag.

cleantechnica.com

 

[JerryP]

Other than faster DC charging, no incentive for me to consider a upgrade at this time.

Along with most owners of three year old cars.

Almost all the practical difference between the EV & EUV is the 3 inches of extra rear seat leg space in the EUV.

Well, that and the more comfortable seats, smoother ride, and the fact that Chevy stripped the EV of a bunch of options that became only available on the EUV.

The three extra inches is used to make the EUV "better looking"...... which it isn't.

In your opinion. But one person's opinion is only one person's opinion. Many people would disagree.

 

[nebula1701]

 

[JerryP]

They always seem to do an excellent report. You can sure tell that the under hood area is a work in progress!

 

[nebula1701]

More information: It’s back: Introducing the 2027 Chevrolet Bolt

 

[bisco]

hard to see the buttons under the screen. i don't see heated and cooled seat controls, or heated steering wheel control.
safety features and improved regen efficiency sound great!

 

[grog]

More information: It’s back: Introducing the 2027 Chevrolet Bolt

I really love (I mean that) how they manage to talk about the NACS plug and not mention Tesla:

The 2027 Bolt is Chevrolet’s first vehicle to offer a native NACS charging port, increasing drivers’ opportunities to access to the ever-expanding public charging network.

 

[jefro]

V2L might be a great addition.