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Dumb question, can i put junk in the phone charger spot?

17K views 45 replies 21 participants last post by  GregBrew  
#1 ·
So I don't use wireless charging. I hate to leave the space empty. Are there any restrictions on what I can put in the wireless charging space? TIA
 
#3 ·
On my 2018, if I place metal objects in the wireless charger slot, I get a few icons that intermittently pop up on the top of the infotainment screen. Soft objects like a sunglass case, no problem. I have never used the slot to charge a phone!
 
#12 ·
Don't put your phone AND stray metal objects in there at the same time.

One or the other.

That's the answer to the question you asked.






Here's the WHY. You didn't ask, but here goes for anybody that wonders...
The wireless charging protocol, even the crummy one that the original Bolt has, does a sort of "negotiation" between the phone and the wireless charging hardware before the output coils are energized. Kind of the same idea with your EVSE plug for the car. No car = no electricity coming out of the plug. A pair of sunglasses, scissors, keys, foil, etc. will fail to negotiate with the charging controller, and thus the coils will not be energized, and no heat or energy transfer will happen, and no power will be wasted.

The issue could theoretically arise when the phone negotiates a connection AND the paperclip collection also absorbs energy. The paperclips may get warm, in the exact same way that an induction stove works (rapidly alternating magnetic field) but more likely the phone will just charge more slowly if at all.

The wireless chargers try very hard by their design to keep the magnetic fields tightly bound and contained to the coils and immediate interface area, otherwise efficiency is lost, charging takes longer, and things get warmer than they need to.

The odds of anything BAD happening however are almost inconceivably small, I'd say small enough to be ignored.
 
#15 · (Edited)
Don't put your phone AND stray metal objects in there at the same time.

One or the other.

That's the answer to the question you asked.






Here's the WHY. You didn't ask, but here goes for anybody that wonders...
The wireless charging protocol, even the crummy one that the original Bolt has, does a sort of "negotiation" between the phone and the wireless charging hardware before the output coils are energized. Kind of the same idea with your EVSE plug for the car. No car = no electricity coming out of the plug. A pair of sunglasses, scissors, keys, foil, etc. will fail to negotiate with the charging controller, and thus the coils will not be energized, and no heat or energy transfer will happen, and no power will be wasted.

The issue could theoretically arise when the phone negotiates a connection AND the paperclip collection also absorbs energy. The paperclips may get warm, in the exact same way that an induction stove works (rapidly alternating magnetic field) but more likely the phone will just charge more slowly if at all.

The wireless chargers try very hard by their design to keep the magnetic fields tightly bound and contained to the coils and immediate interface area, otherwise efficiency is lost, charging takes longer, and things get warmer than they need to.

The odds of anything BAD happening however are almost inconceivably small, I'd say small enough to be ignored.
Someone here had their phone plugged into a USB cord while on the surface charger and melted the plastic on the end of the USB cord. :eek:
 
#13 ·
exactly! placing anything metal will not initiate the wires charge or the coil to be energized.
our chevy silverado has a wireless charging pad right on top of the center armrest. Our arms watches, jewelry keys, other stuff of different metal would get hot or bothered, but it is not.
I say go ahead and throw what ever you want in there. even if your phone is in there the coils have limited Hight of inductive field. also most anything wrapped in thick plastic will shield the inductive charging ability.
silverado center armrest charger.
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#14 ·
the redesigned console on '22 and up bolts screwed up storage so badly I was forced to use the wireless charging hole for my junk. I hesitantly placed my evgo and cp charge cards attached to metal key chains in there, but no heating up or other issues after a month with the car.

I did trip the detectors at the airport yesterday even though I had no metal objects on my person, but that must have been a fluke.
 
#19 ·
No, metal alone in the charging area will not trigger anything. The sensor is looking specifically for something that communicates with the Qi protocol. If there's no communication, there's no power being sent wirelessly.

No question asked honestly is ever "dumb". If we don't ask questions, we never learn. I plan on continuing to learn as long as I'm still breathing...
 
#21 ·
just now tested this .
I placed this piece of metal plate used/sold by "phone magnetic holder thingy" it is about 2x3 inches in size.
It did not heat up in a 15 minute drive.
Yes, the Qi wireless charger need to agree with the phone or other device to charge. I am curious if it charges smart watches?

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#22 ·
just now tested this .
I placed this piece of metal plate used/sold by "phone magnetic holder thingy" it is about 2x3 inches in size.
It did not heat up in a 15 minute drive.
Yes, the Qi wireless charger need to agree with the phone or other device to charge. I am curious if it charges smart watches?

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None of my Qi chargers will charge my Apple Watch.
 
#28 · (Edited)
No need to get worked up. it was a joke. ( I am sure noone cares about this, but...) My hatred towards anything apple dates back to the early 90s when I was building my first 8086 processor based PC with DOS. This was when I learned the ways of Apple of such that a regular mouse, a keyboard, or printer would not plug in or communicate with their computers; same with software. The electronic store had walls of software, games, peripherals for PC, but only a small corner space for apple compatible products.
The hatred grew further when apple's revolutionary ipod would only let you buy music if you installed Itunes on the PC, but still could not move music bidirectionally as in copy to storage. In a meanwhile (in a general sense) any cheap MP3 player showed up as a drive on a PC and allowed my own collections of CD/mp3 to be added to and from. Later, with phones, a USB type charger was universal, but not for apple phones. I could universally charge many devices with USB connectors including headphones, gopro even my rechargable flashlight, but not apple products. Of course USB connectors evolved, micro, mini, type C and so on. Ok, rant mode OFF/ :)
 
#32 ·
As mentioned earlier, It is a smart device. the wireless charging coil won't energize until it receives an "ok- good to go handshake" from a compatible devices. Furthermore it negotiates the correct charging voltage and current.
Furthermore, the magnetic or charging field is limited in strength and distance from the coil.
Even my compatible phone randomly (its positional) catch a charge because it has a heavy duty plastic case with a bunch of creditcards.
- final answer

PS: similarly, home induction type cooking ranges work in similar ways. A coil creates a high freq magnetic field, but first it checks if the correct size ferrous metal is present otherwise it won't turn on. If the cookware is lifted an inch off, the turns it self off after a few a second or so.
 
#42 ·
Side track.....Ours is a few years old LG freestanding all induction cooktop with a giant airfryer like over. It connects to to home WiFi and has its own app. I don't trust it to do any "remote cooking" using its app while walking the dogs. But that freakin' thing heats up water (for pasta or expresso coffee) like no other cooktop oven can. Its fast. I like it a lot.
 
#44 ·
But that freakin' thing heats up water (for pasta or expresso coffee) like no other cooktop oven can.
Yes it does. I made the mistake of putting a carbon steel fry pan on the burner and turning it on high without any oil in the pan. I wanted to blacken a piece of fish. It didn't take too long to warp the pan. Next mistake was to put that piece of fish in the pan. It blackened alright. Charcoal! And so much smoke that it ran me out of the kitchen. I was opening doors and windows and running fans to clear it out. I believe I went to Long John Silvers that night.