[atc98092]

May I know why?

The car has not been able to be used as advertised since the day after I received it. I had to voluntarily park and charge outside, park at a distance from other vehicles, and to remove those restrictions I had to accept a software patch that only allows me to charge to 80%. After 14 months, I still have no idea when the battery will be replaced. Since my car is leased, I gain no benefit from an extended warranty when the battery is replaced. GM has made no offer of any kind to reimburse me for the loss of functionality of the car. The car does not perform as promised at the time of delivery. I simply want to move on.

The Bolt is still a fine EV for most people, and I still suggest to people to consider one. I'm not anti-Bolt, but the car is not fulfilling my needs for my personal transportation.

 

[LaughingSuperCruiser]

I have NEVER understood the obsession with 0-60 time. The majority of the population lives in urban areas where it doesn't matter how fast your car goes 0-60. Because A) good luck ever seeing 60mph, and B) your car is only going as fast as the car in front of you. Traffic sucks. 0-60 time wasn't even a consideration for me.

I know what you mean. Personally I am more interested in the 0 to 30 time. There are frequently times when I find myself in the wrong lane at a stop light. With my Volt I would invoke "Sport Mode" and when the light changed jump ahead and safely move over. I can't really do that in my wife's CRV because the chipmunks require an engraved invitation to pick up the pace.

 

[RichK]

It's just a yardstick to figure out how responsive any given car is. Given that Bolt has 0-60 in 6s+, one would be able to surmise that it is more responsive with another car that only has 11s++. Then you would be able to judge yourself whether you could live with a car with 11s++ or 6s++ 0-60.

To me there is a minimum you need to be able to safely get in and out of traffic and be able to have a little fun now and then. I would say about 8 seconds for 0-60 would be the minimum I would ever consider. I've had cars that could do 0-60 in as little as 5 seconds flat. That was fun when I was younger, but actually a little dangerous for most drivers. I think 5.5-6.5 seconds is the sweet spot for me. There really is not a need for much quicker than that on public streets.

 

[atc98092]

I had a diesel Rabbit back in the '80s. You measured 0-60 with a egg timer or sundial. I never felt unsafe driving it, either around town or at freeway speeds. It even had factory A/C, which was a further drag on power. One simply drives a car based on its abilities, and plan accordingly.

 

[noobla3]

The car has not been able to be used as advertised since the day after I received it...

I assumed that was the reason, but wanted to be sure.

If the battery was a non-issue, this would not be the case, right? The frustration of waiting 14 months would probably tilt me over as well. I probably would not buy one in the first place if the issue was known-- which unfortunately was the day after your purchase

 

[atc98092]

I assumed that was the reason, but wanted to be sure.

If the battery was a non-issue, this would not be the case, right? The frustration of waiting 14 months would probably tilt me over as well. I probably would not buy one in the first place if the issue was known-- which unfortunately was the day after your purchase

Concierge just called me back, and they have refused to consider a lease end. And no offer of any sort of compensation. Kind of what I expected. GM isn't doing anything to keep me as a future customer. My very first car was a '63 Impala SS, and I've had a number of other GM cars over the decades. Looks like this will be the last one.

 

[SpicyBolt]

Concierge just called me back, and they have refused to consider a lease end. And no offer of any sort of compensation. Kind of what I expected. GM isn't doing anything to keep me as a future customer. My very first car was a '63 Impala SS, and I've had a number of other GM cars over the decades. Looks like this will be the last one.

This is one of the things that's so frustrating and unfair about this recall. Via a trade repurchase, we were compensated far more than necessary. And then some in your situation are basically being kicked to the curb.

 

[SteveWilson1983]

I have NEVER understood the obsession with 0-60 time. The majority of the population lives in urban areas where it doesn't matter how fast your car goes 0-60. Because A) good luck ever seeing 60mph, and B) your car is only going as fast as the car in front of you. Traffic sucks. 0-60 time wasn't even a consideration for me.

To expand on what EBS said:
I rarely accelerate all the way from a dead stop to 100km/h, but I absolutely pay attention to that spec. I may not pin it all the way up to highway speeds, but that's just the standard for measuring acceleration. I personally do like my cars to be quick, I find it fun. Useful? Well, that's a bit more of a stretch, but I want it anyway. And if I compare the bolt to the base model ioniq 5, I see the bolt has better acceleration. If all I'm interested in is having fun flooring it up to city speeds, I still know the bolt will do it quicker.

 

[usedBolt]

To expand on what EBS said:
I rarely accelerate all the way from a dead stop to 100km/h, but I absolutely pay attention to that spec. I may not pin it all the way up to highway speeds, but that's just the standard for measuring acceleration. I personally do like my cars to be quick, I find it fun. Useful? Well, that's a bit more of a stretch, but I want it anyway. And if I compare the bolt to the base model ioniq 5, I see the bolt has better acceleration. If all I'm interested in is having fun flooring it up to city speeds, I still know the bolt will do it quicker.

Based on what was needed to merge into traffic on a recent freeway entrance, I'd say we need a rating for 0-92!

0-60 mph (0-100 kph) is the standard usable-acceleration rating. It's been that way nearly forever. Yes, if all you do is in-town driving, it's academic, but it does provide a fair indicator of how quickly you can cross the intersection when the light changes (if you're into such things), and how likely it is that you get a ticket when doing so (if you fail to notice a traffic enforcer in the vicinity).

Car magazines (including web sites) that do credible tests include data for not only 0-60, but also 0-30, 30-50, and perhaps 50-70; the last couple are to give a better idea of how things will work in passing and accident-avoidance situations. They will also give results for a standard 1/4-mile drag strip run (time and trap speed), which suggests the practical top speed in non-autobahn situations. The EV Hummer is amusing because it has a really stupidly quick 0-60, but the 1/4 mile is relatively leisurely because it runs into a speed limiter at just over 100 mph (much like the Bolt does at, ahem, 92).

The Bolt is, in fact, kind of middling for 0-60 under present-day conditions. Most magazine tests place it between 6.5 and 7 sec. EUV is a tick slower - it's bigger and heavier with the same power, right.

 

[SteveWilson1983]

0-60 mph ... it does provide a fair indicator of how quickly you can cross the intersection when the light changes (if you're into such things), and how likely it is that you get a ticket when doing so (if you fail to notice a traffic enforcer in the vicinity).

Slightly off topic, but years ago I had built a pretty decent truck. stopwatch timed 0-60 was 3.8, though obviously that leaves a margin of error. Regardless, I was once again pulled over, this time for turning a decent amount of the mickey thompsons into smoke (and subsequent acceleration out of the light, but I'd backed off and didn't get much past the speed limit). Cop asked what I was doing, and I said "I've got a bunch of speeding tickets, and I'm 2 points away from losing my license, so this is how I have my fun now". He smirked and gave me back my license.
No limits on acceleration, just speed.

Edit: For those out there who might be planning an upcoming purchase, 0-60specs.com is excellent, if you're like-minded. Especially now that we're going to evs, since they do have the one downside of not being very easy to be made quicker than they were off the factory floor.

 

[Kbecker]

In the 80s I spent three years bicycle commuting in city traffic. I developed a heck of a sprint for getting across intersections. If you are slow off the light, some cager is going to pass you and then turn right in front of you, it’s what they do. It’s important to be fast when you’re small. Glad I am not doing stoplight drags with EVs.