[FlashBoltEUV]

Actually, the ad posted a range of 500 kms then in parenthesis it said (310 miles) Not looking for a war just telling what I saw in a previous ad for the Buick. 310 kms would equate to only about 192.5 miles. Perhaps whoever did the translation from Chinese to English made an error. How bout we just agree that we read different information and most of what you viewed was correct and what I saw was a misrepresentation of known facts.

It’s using the Chinese mileage rating instead of the EPA rating. Like the EU, China’s rating system exaggerates the actual range of the vehicle. There is no way that vehicle has a range of 310 miles.

 

[Pat S.]

Yep, and that would explain why GM bothered itself with stretching the Bolt mid-cycle and changing the sheet metal - enough to incur the costs and the PITA of redesigning the car, but not enough to make much difference in the usable interior volume. Made it look bland, and lose 20 miles of range .... nice job

I shouldn't be complaining, the 3" in the wheelbase does make the car a tad less skittish.

If I had a seat at the table where this decision was made, I might have asked how much we could lower the price of the Bolt if we killed off the Bolt EV entirely, and offered only the Bolt EUV.

If the Bolt EV didn't exist, but Bolt EUV did exist and was cheaper (due to lowered costs of supporting only 1 model rather than 2) I wonder if any net EV sales would actually have been lost...

I have a Bolt, but for the same price or less, I think I would give up 20 miles of range for a longer wheelbase and slightly improved ride.

 

[Raxstone]

Here's a link from GM Authority comparing the two vehicles: Buick Velite 7 vs. Chevy Bolt EUV: Side By Side Comparison (gmauthority.com)
They're the same vehicles with just body design differences. So, our cheap Chevy EUV is actually a Buick in disguise!

Not really. The Buick version has features Chevrolet doesn't normally have - like the automated parking. It might even have dual climate control (probably), and possibly they get an actual power tailgate! I haven't looked too closely at the options list, just at the posted videos.

However, being in NA, we get the SuperCruise option, which is nothing to sneeze at!

 

[Bill14051]

I just found this video of the Buick Velite 7, which is an EV that GM sells in China. It looks basically identical to the Chevrolet Bolt EUV in the United States except for a few stylistic differences on the outside and different headlights. Even the interior looks basically the same. So, I think what GM did was take their design for the Chinese market, bring it to the USA to be produced here, and just change a few things.

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I seen it reported as being based on the Velite.

I just found this video of the Buick Velite 7, which is an EV that GM sells in China. It looks basically identical to the Chevrolet Bolt EUV in the United States except for a few stylistic differences on the outside and different headlights. Even the interior looks basically the same. So, I think what GM did was take their design for the Chinese market, bring it to the USA to be produced here, and just change a few things.

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Buick Velite 7 vs. Chevy Bolt EUV: Side By Side Comparison - GM Authority https://gmauthority.com/blog/2021/02/buick-velite-7-vs-chevy-bolt-euv-side-by-side-comparison/

 

[Rebel1996]

I just found this video of the Buick Velite 7, which is an EV that GM sells in China. It looks basically identical to the Chevrolet Bolt EUV in the United States except for a few stylistic differences on the outside and different headlights. Even the interior looks basically the same. So, I think what GM did was take their design for the Chinese market, bring it to the USA to be produced here, and just change a few things.

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Except the Bolt is designed and manufactured in South Korea

 

[spham]

I believe this is correct. It's my understading that after the original Bolt had been developed (in Korea) GM migrated its Korea-based EV program to a Chinese JV, which is where the "bloodline" of the Bolt has continued, and may continue for a while. Something similar happened to the Volt as well; in China; you could say it evolved into the Buick Velite 6

The Botl EUV is designed by GM Korea, a division of GM. Look like they have 3 versions of the car - one in the US/others, one in Europe and one in China.
Chevrolet Bolt EUV, Opel Ampera-e, Buick Velite 7

I was in China in the late 90's - the two most common car brands I saw were Buick(?) and VW Passat

 

[FlashBoltEUV]

Except the Bolt is designed and manufactured in South Korea

Actually, it was designed by GM Korea, but the Bolt has always been built at Orion Assembly in Orion, Michigan. And now the batteries are made in Michigan as well.

 

[Dimitrij]

The Botl EUV is designed by GM Korea, a division of GM. Look like they have 3 versions of the car - one in the US/others, one in Europe and one in China.
Chevrolet Bolt EUV, Opel Ampera-e, Buick Velite 7

I was in China in the late 90's - the two most common car brands I saw were Buick(?) and VW Passat

I doubt it the EUV was designed by GM Korea, and I know for sure the Opel Ampera-e is no longer sold in Europe (they may have continued for a short while after GM sold Opel/Vauxhall to Stellantis, but with the Opel equivalent of the Bolt EV only).

If I had to guess, the EUV was designed as Buick Velite 7 at the Chinese company that GM is associated with in China, as China will be the market where they will sell most of Velite 7's. Further, I speculate that the main reason the rebadged Velite 7 came to the US is because around 2020-2021 GM wasn't anywhere near its declared goal of bringing to the market the next generavion EV models in commercial quantities.

Except the Bolt is designed and manufactured in South Korea

We know for sure that the Bolt EV was designed in South Koren, but it was never manufactured there (although everything that makes the Bolt an EV was indeed manufactured in S. Korea, by various entities).

As for the EUV, I believe the powertrain and the power electronics are still S. Korean, but the battery is [advertised as] US-made, and the final assembly is only in the US.

 

[LoneR]

Actually, it was designed by GM Korea, but the Bolt has always been built at Orion Assembly in Orion, Michigan.

It's actually Lake Orion, but who's mapping.

 

[LoneR]

As for the EUV, I believe the powertrain and the power electronics are still S. Korean, ...

No. The drivetrain is manufactured in S. Korea, but the motor is made in U.S.

 

[ndonurantia]

I just found this video of the Buick Velite 7, which is an EV that GM sells in China. It looks basically identical to the Chevrolet Bolt EUV in the United States except for a few stylistic differences on the outside and different headlights. Even the interior looks basically the same. So, I think what GM did was take their design for the Chinese market, bring it to the USA to be produced here, and just change a few things.

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Wow! So we're all actually driving Buicks.

 

[lmacnit]

Buicks are very popular in China. I see them there all the time.

I read in Car and Driver that GM sells more Buicks in China than they do I the US.

 

[md.]

Yes it does. Where can I get a set of those wheels?

Pretty sure those are the wheels on my 2023 Premier.

 

[vincentfrasco]

I just found this video of the Buick Velite 7, which is an EV that GM sells in China. It looks basically identical to the Chevrolet Bolt EUV in the United States except for a few stylistic differences on the outside and different headlights. Even the interior looks basically the same. So, I think what GM did was take their design for the Chinese market, bring it to the USA to be produced here, and just change a few things.

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Has anybody noticed that the Bolt very similar to a Pontiac Vibe!

 

[vincentfrasco]

While I spent time in China I had several car discussions with people there. Their perception of car brands is very different. For quality they think American cars are on top, followed by German and then Japanese. Oddly, the most reliable are thought to be German. I think it's because VW started building cars there a long time ago and they have lasted much longer than Chinese made cars, of course, so they are seen as reliable. Most every taxi I took was a VW and several had brake warning and/or check engine lights on.

All Volkswagen's always have check engine lights on

 

[Toyotiac]

It's actually Lake Orion, but who's mapping.

Actually Orion Township, well south of the village of Lake Orion. 😁

 

[Lightning23]

My wife and I owned a Buick EnCore for 8 years and I loved the car and I always wished that it was electric. Shazam I’m finally driving my electric Buick. 😎

 

[bdw1957]

I don't know if I would describe GM as a "huge global player"; it's surely in the Top 10 as far as units sold and revenue, but it's not like Mother Toyota that makes almost every vehicle type, almost everywhere, and sells it to almost everyone. GM is not doing much in India, Africa, and Europe.

In China, GM is active, but only as a partner in joint ventures. From what I remember reading GM's revenue is limited, as are GM's rights to the tech, developed by those JV's.

well mostly in China, if you want to build and sell vehicles there, you have to have a local partner (or at you used to ...they might have changed that)

 

[Dimitrij]

well mostly in China, if you want to build and sell vehicles there, you have to have a local partner (or at you used to ...they might have changed that)

I think this is still the case; Tesla is an exception to this rule. I think, though, "build and sell vehicles" is not what GM is really doing in its Chiese JV's. I am almost sure that 90% of R&D, manufacturing, sales, and the intellectual property is in the hands of the Chinese partners, while GM gets paid royalties for the prestigeous "Buick" badge.

 

[TennErnieChevy]

They look like my EUV wheels.

Sadly, they don't look like mine.