[EV Powertrain Engineer]

Can you mount the EVSE on the wall with a bracket? Extra points if the bracket allows you to easily remove the EVSE.

That’s not a bad idea. Maybe I could 3D print something from a high temperature plastic? Or just bend something up on the metal brake?

 

[EV Powertrain Engineer]

Prehaps. I didn’t read the directions, and it seems to hold the changeable plug end ok.

You could do aU-turn in the plug end as others have shown.

It’s impossible to do with such a short cable while respecting the required 7” bend radius. If they would allow a 4” bend radius, I could do that!

 

[enslay]

Unlike the CrippleCreek charger, the Bolt Dual Level Charger has an extremely short input side cable. Yes, the engineer is blaming those pesky bean counters again!!!

What do you mean by "input side cable"? I think the ClipperCreek's NEMA 14-50 cable portion is an abysmal 6 inches long. This seems to be the norm with EVSEs! Although the picture of the Grizzl-E above seems to show a slightly longer NEMA 14-50 cable.

 

[EV Powertrain Engineer]

I specifically asked my electrician to install the NEMA 14-50 receptacle “upside down” so I could do this👍🏻
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Actually, that’s right side up. I that is 180 degrees different from mine, but hey, I really like the metal plug and cable holder. Did you make that from scratch?

 

[Martin D]

My wall mount required me to wire the outlet upside down. It was just as easy as right side up, but the evse needed it as shown:

 

[BoltEUV]

My electrician has installed a few of these Bolt dual power EVSE exactly like mine. So far I haven't had a single issue yet. He does not recommend mounting the portable unit on the wall. The plastic mounting hangers on the back of the unit are weak and could easily break.

 

[BoltEUV]

My next EVSE unit would be 48 amps and it would need to be hard wired anyway so I'm not too worried.

 

[Martin D]

My electrician has installed a few of these Bolt dual power EVSE exactly like mine. So far I haven't had a single issue yet. He does not recommend mounting the portable unit on the wall. The plastic mounting hangers on the back of the unit are weak and could easily break.

I thought the exact same thing about the mounts on the back, was the reason I just hang it, as well as it is a temporary arrangement. I use the OEM as a portable cord in the car for GP.

 

[MisterJJ]

You need extra 6-3 wire because the receptacle has pockets for the individual copper wires that are on the bottom when it is rotated 180 degrees. Right now, as it is currently wired upside down, the 4 individual conductors come strait in from the top. I’m guessing the cable will need to be maybe 4” longer (100mm) to bend around to the bottom of the receptacle. All of this is inside the electrical receptacle box inside the wall.

Ah, I see. Hard to believe that the wire is so direct and taut that you couldn't get some more length. Maybe you could shorten the conduit and mount it up a little to get some extra wire length.

 

[EV Powertrain Engineer]

My electrician has installed a few of these Bolt dual power EVSE exactly like mine. So far I haven't had a single issue yet. He does not recommend mounting the portable unit on the wall. The plastic mounting hangers on the back of the unit are weak and could easily break.

Sorry, but I will go with the opinions of the engineers who actually designed the unit instead of with the opinion of the electrician who’s daddy taught him everything he knows. Just saying….

 

[Martin D]

Looking at the cable on the OEM dual level charging cord, it’s a high-temp cord to get the 32A rating because it’s no way 8 awg power legs. I don’t have it here to look at the rating stamped it the cord, but it’s skinny as a 10-gauge 120v extension cord. I would avoid 240v just for that reason: the cord will get hot, and I don’t like that even though it has the rating.

 

[TimSFL]

Mine is upside down and works just fine.

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Right
Just let it hang it’s not that heavy.
The EVSE I bought may have a heavier plug than the stock one that comes with the car. The manual for the one I bought shows it hanging.

 

[Martin D]

OP, can you hang the evse and put a cable clamp on both the plug end pigtail and the cable just below the hanging evse?

That’s all I have. Good luck 👍

 

[BoltEUV]

Sorry, but I will go with the opinions of the engineers who actually designed the unit instead of with the opinion of the electrician who’s daddy taught him everything he knows. Just saying….

It doesn't take more than 20 seconds looking at the cheap thin plastic hangers on the back to see that it's going to break. It's shoddy engineering at best.

 

[2022 Chevrolet Bolt EUV]

Actually, that’s right side up. I that is 180 degrees different from mine, but hey, I really like the metal plug and cable holder. Did you make that from scratch?

I’m just repeating what the electrician told me. I showed him how I hoped to mount the charger, and he said that would required installing the receptacle upside down, so he was glad I told him that before installation. And no, I bought it off of Amazon, of course😜

EVSE EV PHEV Charger Plug Angle Nozzle Dock Holster Holder for SAE J1772 Electric Vehicle with Cable Organizer Hook Screws Amazon.com

 

[tradosaurus]

I specifically asked my electrician to install the NEMA 14-50 receptacle “upside down” so I could do this👍🏻
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Winner

 

[SHLBHRRS]

Prehaps. I didn’t read the directions, and it seems to hold the changeable plug end ok.

You could do a U-turn in the plug end as others have shown. I might worry more about the bending trying to pull the plug end out. Too bad they didn’t just invert the plug on the plug end if they want the box above the outlet (?)

edit: how close is the outlet to the floor?

My Sparky installed all my kitch. devices that way , said it was present ( current ? ) thought safer , lots of thin metal kitchen ware that could make a circuit if contacted with the blades of a loosely connected plug ... not possible w/U-ground pin up blocking contact ... sounds right to me ...

 

[MisterJJ]

My Sparky installed all my kitch. devices that way , said it was present ( current ? ) thought safer , lots of thin metal kitchen ware that could make a circuit if contacted with the blades of a loosely connected plug ... not possible w/U-ground pin up blocking contact ... sounds right to me ...

Seems a little overboard to me. The chance of such a thing happening is miniscule and if it did happen the result would be a spark and a tripped circuit breaker. I think getting struck by lightning is a bigger risk. Of course a far bigger risk is simply living near other humans.

 

[BobBolt]

So I’m looking at my NEMA 14-50 wall plug and it is upside down. That is understandable since the wiring was run through my attic to reach my garage, but the Dual Charging Cord from Chevy has too short of input cord to bend the cord to allow mounting the unit right side up and still respect the 7” min bend radius!

The keyhole shaped mounting holes only allow the charging unit to be mounted one way up! Of course, I could change the electrical outlet orientation, but there is not enough extra wire in the attic to do this. How have others addressed this issue?

It is upside down from an EVSE perspective but not from a kitchen range perspective which is what the 14-50 is normally installed for (at least in my area).
Sparkys are accustomed to installing the range receptacle near floor level meaning the cord needs to go sideways or up and never down...so they instinctively mount them like that.
My electrician did the same thing and I simply turned the receptacle 180 degrees.
There should be enough slack in the receptacle box to rotate it without worrying about anything in the attic.

 

[Packard V8]

Interesting; most of you have the more expensive NEMA 14-50 round 4-wire setup; separate neutral and ground. My utility, the installer and the city inspector all told me the NEMA 10-50 flat 3-wire and plug; no neutral, are much less expensive and meets code for an ESVE.

Some internet sites state:

Electrical codes require a NEMA 14-50 outlet for a plug-in EV charging station to be installed on a GFCI breaker to prevent injuries and fires. This rule keeps you safe, but also increases the likelihood of you tripping the breaker when you charge your EV.

I asked about this and was told, "Well, that's BS logic. There's no need for a 14-50 on a dedicated ESVE line with no 115-volt tap."

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